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On Fri, Jun 03, 2022 at 11:36:07PM +0200, Tom Ivar Helbekkmo wrote:
> Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> writes:
> 
> > BSD would have won if there was a Linus for BSD.  There was not so you
> > got all this replicated effort, the BSD community effectively divided
> > and conquered themselves.
> 
> I do not agree.  Linux won because BSD was embroiled in litigation.

Like I said, we experienced that differently.  In my opinion, people lean
on the litigation excuse when they don't want to admit that *BSD was not
a good way to do operating system development.