From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2515 invoked from network); 2 Jul 2022 21:03:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Jul 2022 21:03:00 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5478A40D91; Sun, 3 Jul 2022 07:02:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A63FC40D90 for ; Sun, 3 Jul 2022 07:02:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 5367D35E411; Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 14:02:44 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20220702210244.GU11191@mcvoy.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: 2FKP7Q5E73PLMBOXRXM4LDX72SUY7UV6 X-Message-ID-Hash: 2FKP7Q5E73PLMBOXRXM4LDX72SUY7UV6 X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Marc Donner , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Thoughts on Licenses List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: If I were looking for licenses "Copyrights+Licenses" would make me find, "metadata" I wouldn't think to look in. But I'm an old retired dude without many brain cells left. On Sat, Jul 02, 2022 at 02:57:31PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > Before we go inventing our own thing, let's just add spdx tags and > metadata..... there already is a standard for this. > > Warner > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, 1:09 PM Marc Donner wrote: > > > I would call that top level directory "metadata" ... the licensing stuff > > is quite relevant to the owner and operator of the system, but not directly > > relevant to any of its actual content or function. > > ===== > > nygeek.net > > mindthegapdialogs.com/home > > > > > > On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 2:17 PM Clem Cole wrote: > > > >> As part of some of simh work, I've been immersed in some licensing > >> discussions. Thanks for the V8-10, Plan-9 and Inferno notes - they are > >> relevant. > >> > >> Anyway, WRT to TUHS, I'm thinking that at least in the case of the Unix > >> style bits, I propose a small change to Waren's top-level directory. Add > >> a new dir called something like 'Legal Docs' or 'Copyrights+Licenses'. > >> Then move the Caldera document and Warren's current note into that area. > >> Then add copies of anything we can collect like the Dan Cross's V8-10, > >> anything WRT to Plan9/Inferno or anything we from the UNIX world - such as > >> something Sun, DEC or HP or like might have added. Maybe add a > >> subdirectory with the AT&T/USL case details. And maybe add a > >> sub-directory with known FOSS licenses used by the UNIX community and add a > >> copy of the 3-clause BSD and maybe even the two GPLs. > >> > >> Then update the README in the current top-level dir. Adding to the > >> contents something like "*the IP contained on this website is covered by > >> different licenses depending on the specific IP. Copies of these can be > >> found with the source code itself, but have also been all collected > >> together in the top-level directory: ...*." > >> > >> I think these all have both historical values, as well as practical > >> values. As I said, I was not sure myself and I think other would be less > >> ignorant if they could find it all easily. In the case of the practical, > >> a for instance, in an email with some lawyers last week, I had pointed them > >> at the Caldera document. I'ld have loved to have been able to say look in > >> this directory. The Caldera and later Nokia Licenses are what we are > >> considering as examples. > >> > >> Thoughts? > >> > > -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat