From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3757 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2022 06:21:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Jul 2022 06:21:02 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC954013E; Thu, 7 Jul 2022 16:20:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB51B4013D for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2022 16:20:32 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 2676KPAQ011583 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 7 Jul 2022 00:20:26 -0600 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 2676KP0e011582; Thu, 7 Jul 2022 00:20:25 -0600 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202207070620.2676KP0e011582@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2022 00:20:25 -0600 To: lm@mcvoy.com, arnold@skeeve.com References: <202207061816.266IGVAA002244@freefriends.org> <20220706183038.GE31996@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: <20220706183038.GE31996@mcvoy.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: SZFAHW4SK7EELXSYMP3S6PNM7GUUCLXH X-Message-ID-Hash: SZFAHW4SK7EELXSYMP3S6PNM7GUUCLXH X-MailFrom: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Stuart Feldman's EFL List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Larry McVoy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 06, 2022 at 12:16:31PM -0600, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > > Hi. > > > > EFL was definitely a part of BSD Unix. But I don't see it in the V7 > > stuff in the TUHS archives. When did it first appear? Was it part > > of 32V and I should look there? > > > > It is definitely in the V8 and V10 stuff. > > > > Did anyone actually use it? I have the feeling that ratfor had already > > caught on and spread far, and that it met people's needs, and so > > EFL didn't really catch on that much, even though it provided more > > features on top of Fortran. > > The only thing I see in tuhs.org:/var/www that is related is > > ./TUHS/Archive/Documentation/Manuals/Unix_4.0/Volume_1/D.2.3_EFL.pdf > > but I'm still learning the layout on tuhs.org, might be somewhere else? It's in /usr/src/cmd/efl in the V8 and V10 trees and IIRC in /usr/src/usr.bin/efl in the 4.3 BSD tree. It helps to have a local copy of the archive (obtainable via rsync) to browse locally. Arnold