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[68.12.97.90]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m14-20020a9d73ce000000b0061c34994238sm3928986otk.40.2022.08.02.22.09.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 02 Aug 2022 22:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 00:09:21 -0500 From: "G. Branden Robinson" To: steve jenkin Message-ID: <20220803050921.lgmzvgtpye5rseol@illithid> References: <20220731195702.ACC4218C0C1@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <496D2B07-8C23-4D2F-ABA7-132E8E2106C6@canb.auug.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p45bmgptpuybzs7z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <496D2B07-8C23-4D2F-ABA7-132E8E2106C6@canb.auug.org.au> Message-ID-Hash: WW5GFLQLFEHUEJBAJEVFOVS5WCZBSNWW X-Message-ID-Hash: WW5GFLQLFEHUEJBAJEVFOVS5WCZBSNWW X-MailFrom: g.branden.robinson@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Gavin Tersteeg , TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: LSX issues and musing List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --p45bmgptpuybzs7z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2022-08-03T14:32:10+1000, steve jenkin wrote: > Price didn=E2=80=99t win the market. IBM=E2=80=99s 5150 was never =E2=80= =9Ccheapest=E2=80=9D or > technically =E2=80=9Cbest=E2=80=9D at any time - hence rapid rise of (var= iable > quality) clones, built down to a price. >=20 > Wikipedia says: >=20 > 1978: H11 US$1295 (kit) or US$1595 fully assembled ("4kword base system= =E2=80=9D) > display advert > > $1295 kit + postage/freight, bare system, 8KB > (4kword), 6 Q-bus slots free. ROM ? >=20 > 1981: IBM 5150(PC) US$1,565 for "16 KB RAM, Color Graphics > Adapter, and no disk drives.=E2=80=9D > ( I only saw 5150=E2=80=99s with 2x 5.25=E2=80=9D 360KB floppies > included - otherwise, can=E2=80=99t run programs & store > files) Yeah, you could. You simply didn't store stuff to disks. You used audio cassette tape. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_cassette_tape Regards, Branden --p45bmgptpuybzs7z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEh3PWHWjjDgcrENwa0Z6cfXEmbc4FAmLqAvQACgkQ0Z6cfXEm bc7+OA/+M380DxFBdqywU7C98n+izQPggrW8kmlcIE7LZ5NtiSs/BWCwZ1kBR3s+ Xy+vS4KVEFF+PJ1/QozXeU6yZpkuq7igAwnSOrhYHBQkF2h64llzFxUXZiiYRcGz 7ezOIxoA/oOEVm0bv0CtipYj/eFRjOJAyK54kVUrsu8WBHe0FFoyJN4/TM2Mms/t Pc2mrAUAW8Q9Pe4jq8UvI4Sk3ihhTsiUXsLktTzKuILP/B5rnhIdmLGLt9ctDele D32HK0sJwxMMH8jPZl6qSovd5jOo38YoV1yvZILgcth1IMUlMA4CDrmts+rggN/g Gt2vgSYNr5tWgvM9v6RViBZGzaNEYo9Q5HdTvZOX+8D8FJJccV3O79+KPqnirmA2 aJoFHdBXnzTAbcrdxDLIN0DfAZ/01LgTq8MXic/vI1/YH2QwP6WhLdDnduhDXvN6 +ENXcXvxilCtUoC7HeK4/wQAXvA9hhiZdlkb/5bfWUo9P3Js8+C4blTBoMFnM51T U2bp86cajhPyhWMxHPHr6UWOEJVQs6XcvtS/NtOA0D0VPUtHxaNvXhz5B791UWyQ +I4/ybFAf8ScHi+1zE+x4+AuXyuTBFG77SSxJXYlO3B3Y3BzI+oLmKic34midjgw 3Twm32y4iV+0D2KDc4NPexK9KiWIrLgOPFWqk1sSoC+PlwF04Rw= =9JyD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --p45bmgptpuybzs7z--