From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28321 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2022 06:47:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Aug 2022 06:47:40 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BE440947; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:47:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C68ED40920 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 16:47:02 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 27C6kvpC015825 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 12 Aug 2022 00:46:58 -0600 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 27C6kvJE015824; Fri, 12 Aug 2022 00:46:57 -0600 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202208120646.27C6kvJE015824@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2022 00:46:57 -0600 To: tuhs@tuhs.org, groff@gnu.org, g.branden.robinson@gmail.com References: <20220810171417.GY21168@mcvoy.com> <202208101737.27AHbupN011923@freefriends.org> <202208101744.27AHiWOT1220324@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20220810180210.GZ21168@mcvoy.com> <202208101804.27AI4VkB1221117@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20220810181911.50EEB3EE724@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> <202208101824.27AIOQG81222103@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202208111213.27BCDOfi019865@freefriends.org> <20220812015255.5mexb5ndknnzlhms@illithid> In-Reply-To: <20220812015255.5mexb5ndknnzlhms@illithid> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: IBBEVFJQT3PJL3DQNTQNLT7B6DXHUIZ6 X-Message-ID-Hash: IBBEVFJQT3PJL3DQNTQNLT7B6DXHUIZ6 X-MailFrom: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: pic List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > > Oh surely. I just don't know what sources those would be, exactly; > > presumably some derivative he's been shepherded all these years? I > > wonder what it is.... > > Per Kernighan's _Unix: A History and a Memoir_ (2020), it seems likely > that it was simply groff. Knowing BWK, I personally doubt that he'd have messed with GNU pic when he has his own copy of the original program that he himself wrote. I'm also quite sure that he prefers C to C++. > "Camera-ready copy for this book was produced by the author in Times > Roman and Helvetica, using groff, ghostscript, and other open source > Unix tools." (copyright page) Sure, because he works on Linux and MacOS and the GNU tools are easily installable and "just work". Of course, Dan could always just ask Brian what he did. :-) Arnold