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Branden Robinson" To: arnold@skeeve.com Message-ID: <20220812204902.n4fsdbvm7z3nrk5e@illithid> References: <202208101744.27AHiWOT1220324@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20220810180210.GZ21168@mcvoy.com> <202208101804.27AI4VkB1221117@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <20220810181911.50EEB3EE724@yagi.h-net.msu.edu> <202208101824.27AIOQG81222103@darkstar.fourwinds.com> <202208111213.27BCDOfi019865@freefriends.org> <20220812015255.5mexb5ndknnzlhms@illithid> <202208120646.27C6kvJE015824@freefriends.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5jhha3u7za6wlolb" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202208120646.27C6kvJE015824@freefriends.org> Message-ID-Hash: W5RCDY2DVJD64E6CE6FDB6BBAJ2NSZ43 X-Message-ID-Hash: W5RCDY2DVJD64E6CE6FDB6BBAJ2NSZ43 X-MailFrom: g.branden.robinson@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org, groff@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: pic List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --5jhha3u7za6wlolb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2022-08-12T00:46:57-0600, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: > "G. Branden Robinson" wrote: > > > Oh surely. I just don't know what sources those would be, exactly; > > > presumably some derivative he's been shepherded all these years? I > > > wonder what it is.... > > > > Per Kernighan's _Unix: A History and a Memoir_ (2020), it seems > > likely that it was simply groff. >=20 > Knowing BWK, I personally doubt that he'd have messed with GNU pic > when he has his own copy of the original program that he himself wrote. Wishful thinking on my part, maybe. > I'm also quite sure that he prefers C to C++. No doubt--but groff is pretty accessible to C programmers, being almost entirely of an ancient vintage of C++. We don't have rvalue references inside lambda expressions inside templates, for instance. 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