From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 10542 invoked from network); 7 Sep 2022 22:36:25 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Sep 2022 22:36:25 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 754A041740; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:36:19 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A1A0D4172C for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2022 08:36:14 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 44F9135E085; Wed, 7 Sep 2022 15:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2022 15:36:05 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Steve Jenkin Message-ID: <20220907223605.GS31856@mcvoy.com> References: <20220907145631.GN31856@mcvoy.com> <8DDF5A51-AABF-41AF-993C-4D087903BDC9@canb.auug.org.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8DDF5A51-AABF-41AF-993C-4D087903BDC9@canb.auug.org.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: JJ3NBOOVDTGNYC5YWG5GX7AMWSRG27CD X-Message-ID-Hash: JJ3NBOOVDTGNYC5YWG5GX7AMWSRG27CD X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Has this been discussed on-list? How Unix changed Software. List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 07:27:26AM +1000, Steve Jenkin wrote: > Would your folk ship code with a list of outstanding bug reports? Absolutely, there were always open bug reports that couldn't be reproduced, or were a side effect of misusing the product, etc. We didn't ship with stuff that we thought should be fixed and could be fixed. > I don???t think Ken & Dennis did that. I wasn't there but it's hard to imagine anything as complex as an operating system went out the door with everything fixed. I dunno how the kernel was done back in the day, but for us, doing a release was a 6 month process. If you reset that process each time a new bug comes in, you'll never ship. At some point, you have to balance the set of features and bugfixes you can fix against whatever new thing that shows up. It's definitely an art to get that right.