From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Clem Cole <clemc@ccc.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fwd: Re: Early BSD license thread
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 08:09:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220921150938.GF14437@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAC20D2Mgg=K42y+_bO9wxPbMv_Q7htapiWLpcqE8CDCDP5AB7w@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 10:57:51AM -0400, Clem Cole wrote:
> Yes, the CSRG team did do a great deal of innovation as well as
> integration, but the line between the two was not always easy to see from
> the outside. And I think developers outside of UCB sometimes felt (to use
> Rob's words) 'rankled' for CSRG getting credit for some of innovation that
> really belonged to others, because the CSRG team was the distribution
> vehicle.
In the valley it is well known that ideas are easy and execution is hard.
Unless you have been responsible for shipping a big product and supporting
it, it's hard to imagine how hard that is. There is absolutely an art
to knowing when to release and when to keep fixing bugs. I think it
was Keith Bostic who had that touch but I'm not positive. Someone did
and having that ability is at least as important as having the ideas.
A lot less "sexy" but every bit as important.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-21 15:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-21 10:10 [TUHS] " Warner Losh
2022-09-21 12:36 ` [TUHS] " Rob Pike
2022-09-21 13:33 ` Marc Donner
2022-09-21 13:46 ` Warner Losh
2022-09-21 14:50 ` Rich Salz
2022-09-21 14:58 ` Warner Losh
2022-09-21 15:06 ` Miod Vallat
2022-09-21 14:57 ` [TUHS] Fwd: " Clem Cole
2022-09-21 15:09 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2022-09-21 15:25 ` [TUHS] " Warner Losh
2022-09-21 22:06 ` [TUHS] " Bakul Shah
2022-09-21 22:20 ` Warner Losh
2022-09-21 21:14 ` [TUHS] Re: Fwd: " Theodore Ts'o
2022-09-21 21:46 ` Clem Cole
2022-09-21 21:49 ` [TUHS] " Phil Budne
2022-09-21 22:07 ` Rich Salz
2022-09-21 22:24 ` Warner Losh
2022-09-21 22:09 ` Dan Cross
2022-09-21 22:19 ` Steve Nickolas
2022-09-21 22:44 ` Joseph Holsten
2022-09-21 23:53 ` Chet Ramey
2022-09-22 0:32 ` Rob Pike
2022-09-22 7:08 ` [TUHS] " Andy Kosela
2022-09-22 17:44 ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2022-09-22 18:44 ` Bakul Shah
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