From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28806 invoked from network); 31 Oct 2022 19:26:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 31 Oct 2022 19:26:53 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF4141DCA; Tue, 1 Nov 2022 05:26:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ABA0141DC9 for ; Tue, 1 Nov 2022 05:26:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 660D635E411; Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:26:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2022 12:26:44 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Jon Steinhart Message-ID: <20221031192644.GO22806@mcvoy.com> References: <20221031191401.GN22806@mcvoy.com> <202210311917.29VJHxe6110870@darkstar.fourwinds.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202210311917.29VJHxe6110870@darkstar.fourwinds.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: CPRPFR3IP6H6NYZCEFODTAFHD3JMG3IJ X-Message-ID-Hash: CPRPFR3IP6H6NYZCEFODTAFHD3JMG3IJ X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Four windowing systems on SunOS List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 12:17:59PM -0700, Jon Steinhart wrote: > Larry McVoy writes: > > Sunview was a toolkit - a really nice one in my opinion, every api had > > a set of defaults and a key, so you could call sv_whatever(SV_DONE) > > and did whatever with the default values. But you could override the > > defaults like so sv_whatever(SV_SOMEKEY, some_value, SV_DONE). It > > kept the system from being very verbose. > > > > People like Sunview's api enough that there was an Xview toolkit which > > was Sunview ported to X10/X11. > > Yeah, but it had its own issues. I did an emergency late night and weekend > consulting contract with Sun because Xview kept crashing. Turns out that > the code had some very suspect pointer dereferencing that worked until the > SPARC processors came along and barfed at unaligned accesses. Oh yeah, been there, fixed that.