From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 17426 invoked from network); 2 Nov 2022 13:16:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Nov 2022 13:16:56 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B5741DBF; Wed, 2 Nov 2022 23:16:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3FCE340A20 for ; Wed, 2 Nov 2022 23:16:35 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id A7BCB35E0A7; Wed, 2 Nov 2022 06:16:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2022 06:16:34 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Larry Stewart Message-ID: <20221102131634.GF26791@mcvoy.com> References: <7A8AFF11-5383-4FD3-8FA4-D262B30DC6A1@serissa.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7A8AFF11-5383-4FD3-8FA4-D262B30DC6A1@serissa.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: YTSWM7OWZXU7FYOAX7CGG2MZUA2DSBU5 X-Message-ID-Hash: YTSWM7OWZXU7FYOAX7CGG2MZUA2DSBU5 X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: steve jenkin , TUHS X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Early Unix and Keyboard Skills List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Self taught touch typer here. I frequently compare typing to running my excavator. If I don't think about what I'm doing, everything works, I can type in the dark (doing that right now) but as soon as I start thinking about where the keys are (or what the joysticks on the excavator do) it all goes to shit. And getting back to writing, I personally feel like if you write the man page first, it settles my messy brain into a good space, the code comes easier after writing docs. I view writing docs as sort of the first pass of thinking about how to write the code. Doesn't always work but it is pleasant when it does. On Wed, Nov 02, 2022 at 09:07:31AM -0400, Larry Stewart wrote: > In 1969 at the end of 9 th grade I got a foot injury that kept me on crutches for the summer so I took summer school typing. very worthwhile. I think 90% of the class were young women. My parents encouraged it mostly because it would make writing term papers much easier, which it did, but of course it had many computing benefits as well. > the ancient typewriters had really heavy keys with long strokes. Much like teletypes. > > > On Nov 2, 2022, at 8:27 AM, John P. Linderman wrote: > > > > ??? > > When I was in high school (in the early sixties) I tried to sign up for typing, which was taught on manual typewriters. I was told that the class was for girls only, and I was turned away. I never did develop good typing skills. I'm pretty much a two-fingered typist. Ironically, I have probably done more typing than 90% of the female classmates who were allowed to take the class. > > > > Precision figured mightily in those days, which may also have pre-dated white-out. Eliminating an error was a big deal. Now it's dead easy, and auto-correct has already fixed several errors in this message. > > > >> On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 8:14 AM Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > >> steve jenkin wrote in > >> : > >> ... > >> |I???ve never heard anyone mention keyboard skills with the people of \ > >> |the CSRC - doesn???t anyone know? > >> > >> What i personally find more fascinating (given that -- in the > >> right condition -- i type pretty fast even in total darkness but > >> darkest possible monitor brightness) is the multitaskability some > >> show, in respect to combination of mouse and keyboard (or even > >> dual-mouse if i remember a message of Rob Pike right). I once > >> watched a video on the google tube of Russ Cox dancing acme doing > >> go testing, could be it is [1]. When he starts to actually work > >> a bit (late on iirc), that is thrilling, i could never select / > >> paste (kill snarf yank what do i know) that fast. > >> > >> [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dP1xVpMPn8M > >> > >> --steffen > >> | > >> |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, > >> |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one > >> |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off > >> |(By Robert Gernhardt) -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat