From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 8961 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2022 15:30:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Nov 2022 15:30:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F97341773; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 01:29:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA1914176B for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2022 01:29:52 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 2ARFTmpx022915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:29:49 -0700 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 2ARFTlef022914; Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:29:47 -0700 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202211271529.2ARFTlef022914@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:29:47 -0700 To: phil@ultimate.com, jpl.jpl@gmail.com References: <8f278bf8-de57-4e77-a3b8-d007d7c3a446@app.fastmail.com> <20221126191827.GV18011@mcvoy.com> <764dda08-f358-4c74-8056-ef8fc80bcaac@app.fastmail.com> <20221126232323.GX18011@mcvoy.com> <20221127001714.GY18011@mcvoy.com> <202211270443.2AR4hofO067295@ultimate.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: 3VPJK35T5ZNEHIHY4CSE3ZQBJZQB73DO X-Message-ID-Hash: 3VPJK35T5ZNEHIHY4CSE3ZQBJZQB73DO X-MailFrom: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Reaction to the 3B2 at Bell Labs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Many schools were similarly gifted; I had them both at Georgia Tech and at Emory. They didn't see a lot of real use. The one more-or-less cool thing they had was a soft power switch; pushing it started an orderly Unix shutdown (usually). Once in a while one had to yank the cord from the wall to shut it down. Arnold "John P. Linderman" wrote: > We were "gifted" a 3B2, as in "take this and use it!". I ran a "ps" command > in single user mode, and it took 20 seconds to run. > Our machine names were themed around bird names, so we christened the 3B2 > "junco". Our director said we had to get along, > so we renamed it "jay". But everyone knew what the J stood for. The 3B2 > served as a doorstop. > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 11:44 PM Phil Budne wrote: > > > Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I read the Wikipedia page on the 9000. It's sad that the 9000 > > > wasn't cancelled when they had better alternatives. > > > > In an oral history Bob Supnik described Ken Olsen couldn't get his > > head around the fact that the NVAX chip could equal the 9000: > > > > @2:59:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3tcCBHRIfU > > > > In part 2, Bob described how then DEC VP Gordon Bell having earlier > > predicted when the microprocessor performance curve would cross over > > minis and mainframes: > > > > @1:51:45 in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3tcCBHRIfU > > > > He also talks about how the company couldn't command the bsame gross > > margins as it did in the VAX era. > >