From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18754 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2022 15:03:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 12 Dec 2022 15:03:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E942455; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 01:02:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0577542452 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 01:02:55 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id BAB6A35E5F9; Mon, 12 Dec 2022 07:02:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2022 07:02:54 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Andrew Warkentin Message-ID: <20221212150254.GG8801@mcvoy.com> References: <20221211200327.GC8801@mcvoy.com> <8F5B431B-3789-42C7-8E34-0B6A417B41CF@iitbombay.org> <20221212033453.GE8801@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: LQNJQNNEIE4MBUDL6XXB3XPG7436VYMY X-Message-ID-Hash: LQNJQNNEIE4MBUDL6XXB3XPG7436VYMY X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Clever code (was Re: Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Sun, Dec 11, 2022 at 10:26:37PM -0700, Andrew Warkentin wrote: > On 12/11/22, Larry McVoy wrote: > > > > If you think of microkernels and think Mach is it, nope, look at QNX. > > > And yet, for some reason, QNX has had almost no influence on anything > else besides a few hobby OSes (only one of which ever reached a > reasonably mature state) as far as I can tell. I really don't get why > that is. As far as I know, I'm the only one who's working on a > QNX-like OS that's not QNX itself. It influenced me. Lots of things that were the right answer failed to achieve success. Beta vs VHS. Plan 9. Does that mean they were worthless? I don't think so.