From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 24506 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2022 14:07:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Dec 2022 14:07:26 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AA14249A; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 00:07:04 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6210242498 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 00:07:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 05E8C35E086; Thu, 15 Dec 2022 06:06:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2022 06:06:59 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Dan Cross Message-ID: <20221215140659.GE21275@mcvoy.com> References: <20221211200327.GC8801@mcvoy.com> <8F5B431B-3789-42C7-8E34-0B6A417B41CF@iitbombay.org> <4A770CCE-2BC9-4DA7-B3D7-71AF9A23F79E@iitbombay.org> <20221215025453.GY20511@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: JYWEUIKVNRL76ITCFNZVN5YZFEEHYLDX X-Message-ID-Hash: JYWEUIKVNRL76ITCFNZVN5YZFEEHYLDX X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Bakul Shah , The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Clever code (was Re: Re: Stdin Redirect in Cu History/Alternatives? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 09:02:08AM -0500, Dan Cross wrote: > On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 12:38 AM Bakul Shah wrote: > > Don't see how unless they put multiple related services in the same > > address space, which reduces context switching but tends toward a > > monokernel (& increased coupling). Unless I am misunderstanding you. > > I don't see why two services in a microkernel couldn't arrange to > share a region of memory and implement bidirectional queues > between themselves. With an appropriate signalling mechanism, > you'd still be context switching but avoiding a lot of copying. My mind went to similar thoughts. How did QNX manage the page cache? Did they have mmap?