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From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa)
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: [TUHS] Re: origin of null-terminated strings
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 18:11:44 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221216231144.62E0518C087@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (raw)

    > From: Bob Supnik

    > The PDP11 had .ASCIZ, starting with Macro11 in 1972.

I was just about to report on my results, after a tiny bit of digging, which
included this. The important datum is that PAL-11 (in DEC-11-GGPB-D, "paper
tape software", April 1970, revised March 1971), which _preceded_ Macro-11,
_does not_ include .ASCIZ (although it has .ASCII). My oldest Macro-11 book
(DEC-11-OMACA-B-D, "BATCH-11/DOS-11 Assembler (MACRO-11)", April 1972, revised
March 1973) does have .ASCIZ. So in the DEC PDP-11 universe, it dates from
sometime between 1970 and 1972.

I'm not sure if Bell had any of the DEC paper tape software: "In early 1970 we
proposed acquisition of a PDP-11, which had just been introduced by
Digital. ... an order for a PDP-11 was placed in May. The processor arrived at
the end of the summer, but the PDP-11 was so new a product that no disk was
available until December. In the meantime, a rudimentary, core-only version of
Unix was written using a cross-assembler on the PDP-7." So the .ASCIZ in
Macro-11 wasn't until a couple of years later.

	 Noel

             reply	other threads:[~2022-12-16 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-16 23:11 Noel Chiappa [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-12-16 22:26 Douglas McIlroy
2022-12-17  2:03 ` James Frew
2022-12-17  3:42 ` steve jenkin
2022-12-17 17:11 ` Clem Cole
2022-12-17 18:15   ` Tom Lyon
2022-12-17 18:43     ` Clem Cole
2022-12-17 18:46       ` Clem Cole
2022-12-17 19:26     ` Tom Perrine
2022-12-19  4:26     ` Adam Thornton
2022-12-16  3:02 [TUHS] " Douglas McIlroy
2022-12-16  3:14 ` [TUHS] " Ken Thompson
2022-12-16  9:13   ` Dr Iain Maoileoin
2022-12-16 13:42     ` Dan Halbert
2022-12-16 16:10       ` Dan Cross
2022-12-16 16:22         ` Tom Lyon
2022-12-16 16:29         ` Jon Steinhart
2022-12-16 20:12     ` Dave Horsfall
2022-12-16 21:02       ` Warner Losh
2022-12-16 21:13         ` Clem Cole
2022-12-16 21:49           ` Clem Cole
2022-12-17  0:26             ` Phil Budne
2022-12-16 21:18         ` Luther Johnson
2022-12-16 21:20         ` Dan Halbert
2022-12-16  3:17 ` Steve Nickolas
2022-12-16 17:24 ` John P. Linderman

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