From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3363 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2022 04:42:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 31 Dec 2022 04:42:16 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5647E423B3; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:42:02 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lax.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [45.32.70.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A361742373 for ; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 14:41:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (121-200-11-253.79c80b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [121.200.11.253]) by lax.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAEC2814B; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 04:41:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2EDC2635BE; Sat, 31 Dec 2022 15:41:54 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2022 15:41:54 +1100 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Larry McVoy Message-ID: <20221231044154.GA54376@eureka.lemis.com> References: <52FB6638-AEFF-4A4F-8C2E-32089D577BA0@planet.nl> <464819f0-d2f6-2a60-6481-a194f4428b4d@case.edu> <20221230200246.GW5825@mcvoy.com> <88f83b4c-b3f9-ed87-b2fa-560fb369742a@makerlisp.com> <20221231035931.GG5825@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20221231035931.GG5825@mcvoy.com> Organization: LEMIS, 29 Stones Road, Dereel, VIC, Australia Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Message-ID-Hash: KO7CU424AZIX3GURZFWJSADKCV2HJWH2 X-Message-ID-Hash: KO7CU424AZIX3GURZFWJSADKCV2HJWH2 X-MailFrom: grog@lemis.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: A few comments on porting the Bourne shell List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 30 December 2022 at 19:59:31 -0800, Larry McVoy wrote: > Over and over, I won the "straight bourne shell only" battle. So I agree, > if you want /bin/sh to work, Bourne shell for the win. Agreed. > For a login shell, bash is my shell of choice. It's bloated but I'm > typing this on a 5 year old Lenova X1 Carbon with 16GB of memory and > 4 cores and it's fine. It was fine a 133mhz Pentium. I've been using bash since 16 MHz i386s. People told me that it was bloated, but somehow I didn't notice. Somehow this reminds me of the expansion of EMACS: Eight Megabytes And Continually Swapping. 8 MB? Nowadays? It shows how old these prejudices are. Now my emacs processes have round 30 MB of resident memory and are dwarfed by 2 GB web browsers. bash comes in at a little over 2 MB, just not worth talking about. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAmOvvZIACgkQIubykFB6QiOLlwCfcynarBl4f1i1473v2ohgM6PA V5wAn1m6D8XAuz0j0VhpeYh1mVtNUbkl =hEql -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ew6BAiZeqk4r7MaW--