From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 22591 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2023 01:10:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Jan 2023 01:10:24 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5DA4242F; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:09:49 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A267542429 for ; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 11:09:39 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 122D835E2F0; Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:09:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2023 17:09:39 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Adam Thornton Message-ID: <20230119010938.GH28004@mcvoy.com> References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <20230118161959.GE2964@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: SQXQ7JS53DBJYA2UHYFPXGNUEFYRWOJ7 X-Message-ID-Hash: SQXQ7JS53DBJYA2UHYFPXGNUEFYRWOJ7 X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 05:54:00PM -0700, Adam Thornton wrote: > On Wed, Jan 18, 2023 at 9:20 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > > > Pretty unrealistic to expect the users to suddenly have the time to do > > kernel dev. Solaris opened sourced itself and it's dead. > > > > > That one's not entirely on the users. > > There's plenty of blame for Oracle as well. > > I was the person nominally in charge of the OpenSolaris port to z (Neale > Ferguson did most of the heavy lifting) when Sine Nomine built it, having > read the tea leaves and believing that IBM would buy Sun. And then IBM > tightened the screws a little too far and Larry Ellison grabbed it > instead. Dammit. Yeah, I'm not a Solaris fan (because SunOS) but there was some good technology in there. Would have been cool if IBM kept it going. I never really understood why Sun was up for sale.