From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25984 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2023 15:13:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Jan 2023 15:13:06 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E24942441; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:13:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42E294243E for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:12:51 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 30JFCmHa017249 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:12:49 -0700 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 30JFCmmI017248; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:12:48 -0700 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202301191512.30JFCmmI017248@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 08:12:48 -0700 To: tuhs@tuhs.org, lproven@gmail.com References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <20230118161959.GE2964@mcvoy.com> <2f00f9a6-c57d-8490-4066-931ec6e191cd@gmail.com> <20230118164242.GG2964@mcvoy.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: ZD6C3EEFZKMP3ICQUXKEBNC7L5FVVGVG X-Message-ID-Hash: ZD6C3EEFZKMP3ICQUXKEBNC7L5FVVGVG X-MailFrom: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Liam Proven wrote: > Secondly, the PRoC has a "5-3-2 programme" in place to compel all > organisations to move to Linux and get rid of American OSes. Last year > was the nominal completion when 98% of machines were to have been > replaced or reinstalled; the assumption was that there would be at > least 2% of Windows boxes that they _couldn't_ readily replace. > > https://www.theregister.com/2019/12/09/china_orders_ban_on_us_computers_and_software/ > > I've looked at OpenKylin. It's Ubuntu. Deepin is Debian underneath > although they're planning to move away from it. OK, so far so good for the numbers, but how much do those distributions let the PROC government monitor what its citizens are doing? There are political, non-technical reasons to avoid anything coming out of China. And yes, this is even way more off topic. Arnold