From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 27256 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2023 15:24:09 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 19 Jan 2023 15:24:09 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19AE442467; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:24:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5045C42462 for ; Fri, 20 Jan 2023 01:23:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 11DDA35E2F0; Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:23:57 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2023 07:23:57 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20230119152357.GB626@mcvoy.com> References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <202301190802.30J82KwQ025718@freefriends.org> <20230119150434.GA626@mcvoy.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: I3CW3BFXLPERYVFO54AGO7LNWPVT3L3C X-Message-ID-Hash: I3CW3BFXLPERYVFO54AGO7LNWPVT3L3C X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 08:20:16AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:04 AM Larry McVoy wrote: > > > I had already been using Linux for a while by then I believe. I used > > it before it had networking. > > > > Pretty early on I got to be friends with Linus and was really impressed > > with his leadership. That's what sold me on Linux, he was the thing > > that was missing in the BSD world. If someone like him had appeared > > and unified the BSD world I think we'd all be running BSD. > > > > By the time even 4.3BSD was released, there were dozens of people that > could work on the kernel at a high level of skill. There was no one person > who created it who could have the gravitas to pull that off. Let alone a > decade later when it was freed up, by then there were hundreds. The > dynamics of the situation were quite different: Linus always was in charge > because he wrote the whole thing... BSD was a victim of it's own success > in the 80s and 90s in a way... Linus was in charge because he started it. At least 30 years ago I said "He's good programmer, a good architect, and a good manager. I've never seen that in one person before". He most certainly did not write the whole thing but he decided what went in when. He's quite good at that.