From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com>
Cc: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: FD 2
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2023 15:22:46 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230120232246.GC12196@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdPgzxjQyZ6+9EGesaKM8zqqs5Ma8eQfpN95q6=PRY2dCYYA@mail.gmail.com>
That's dumb. Though I run slack like so
slack > /dev/null 2>&1 &
because whatever version I have spews garbage to stderr. Sigh.
On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 10:14:25AM +1100, Rob Pike wrote:
> Yes, but everyone adds the flag --alsologtostderr
>
> -rob
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 10:11 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 09:56:16AM +1100, Rob Pike wrote:
> > > I will let others respond with specifics, but that was there in v5 at
> > least.
> > >
> > > One of the many shocks I had on arrival at Google was that in production,
> > > fd2 was pretty much standard output, as all the logging went there. And
> > > since our machines were still 32-bit CPUs then, it was common to overflow
> > > the offset because the logging output was, well, not parsimonious. It
> > felt
> > > like I'd entered bizarro world, until I realized that few anywhere really
> > > knew how Unix was supposed to be used. And they still don't, and never
> > will.
> >
> > Isn't there a logging API complete with the ability to centralize the logs?
> >
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-20 23:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-20 22:44 [TUHS] " ron minnich
2023-01-20 22:54 ` [TUHS] " G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-20 22:56 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-20 23:11 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-20 23:14 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-20 23:22 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2023-01-20 23:13 ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-01-21 3:37 ` Jon Steinhart
2023-01-21 15:42 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-21 17:34 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 17:50 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 18:26 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-21 18:37 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-22 11:05 ` Jonathan Gray
2023-01-22 21:23 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-22 22:10 ` ron minnich
2023-01-23 7:30 ` arnold
2023-01-23 8:32 ` James Johnston
2023-01-23 8:58 ` G. Branden Robinson
2023-01-23 11:49 ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-23 14:25 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-01-23 17:43 ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-23 16:59 ` Douglas McIlroy
2023-01-24 7:21 ` arnold
2023-01-29 18:51 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-29 19:20 ` Ron Natalie
2023-01-29 20:25 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 7:50 ` arnold
2023-01-30 8:09 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-30 15:02 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 15:16 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 15:27 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 15:35 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 15:45 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:09 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 16:18 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 19:03 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 19:12 ` Brantley Coile
2023-01-30 21:24 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 22:15 ` Rob Pike
2023-01-30 22:50 ` ron minnich
2023-01-30 23:05 ` [TUHS] Child of plan9? (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-31 3:19 ` [TUHS] " Andrew Warkentin
2023-01-30 16:21 ` [TUHS] " Steve Nickolas
2023-01-30 16:27 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:32 ` ron minnich
2023-01-30 16:40 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-30 19:55 ` Lawrence Stewart
2023-01-31 21:27 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-01-30 16:48 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-30 16:57 ` Andy Kosela
2023-01-30 17:04 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 20:38 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-01-30 21:01 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-30 21:10 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-30 16:03 ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 16:07 ` Larry McVoy
2023-01-30 16:13 ` Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 16:22 ` Steve Nickolas
2023-01-30 16:17 ` Dan Cross
2023-01-30 16:18 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-01-30 16:41 ` [TUHS] job control (Re: " Bakul Shah
2023-01-30 19:07 ` [TUHS] " Dan Cross
2023-01-30 13:26 ` John Cowan
2023-01-30 14:30 ` arnold
2023-01-30 0:25 ` Phil Budne
2023-01-30 2:08 ` Warner Losh
2023-01-21 18:27 ` Clem Cole
2023-01-22 10:56 ` Jaap Akkerhuis via TUHS
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