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That's dumb.  Though I run slack like so

slack > /dev/null 2>&1 &

because whatever version I have spews garbage to stderr.  Sigh.

On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 10:14:25AM +1100, Rob Pike wrote:
> Yes, but everyone adds the flag --alsologtostderr
> 
> -rob
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 10:11 AM Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 09:56:16AM +1100, Rob Pike wrote:
> > > I will let others respond with specifics, but that was there in v5 at
> > least.
> > >
> > > One of the many shocks I had on arrival at Google was that in production,
> > > fd2 was pretty much standard output, as all the logging went there. And
> > > since our machines were still 32-bit CPUs then, it was common to overflow
> > > the offset because the logging output was, well, not parsimonious. It
> > felt
> > > like I'd entered bizarro world, until I realized that few anywhere really
> > > knew how Unix was supposed to be used. And they still don't, and never
> > will.
> >
> > Isn't there a logging API complete with the ability to centralize the logs?
> >

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