From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31770 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2023 18:13:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 21 Jan 2023 18:13:20 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B63294256B; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 04:13:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B49042559 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 04:13:00 +1000 (AEST) X-Envelope-From: arnold@skeeve.com Received: from freefriends.org (freefriends.org [96.88.95.60]) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 30LICuZI021235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:12:56 -0700 Received: (from arnold@localhost) by freefriends.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) id 30LICtSl021234; Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:12:55 -0700 From: arnold@skeeve.com Message-Id: <202301211812.30LICtSl021234@freefriends.org> X-Authentication-Warning: frenzy.freefriends.org: arnold set sender to arnold@skeeve.com using -f Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:12:55 -0700 To: luther@makerlisp.com, cowan@ccil.org References: <202301180943.30I9hrOw030485@freefriends.org> <202301181513.30IFDDUJ015224@freefriends.org> <20230118151446.GD2964@mcvoy.com> <202301190802.30J82KwQ025718@freefriends.org> <20230119150434.GA626@mcvoy.com> <7cc2b7c5-5e98-9299-4fa8-a477fbf4ff77@makerlisp.com> <75cfc721-a662-ddea-1188-767462d747ae@makerlisp.com> In-Reply-To: <75cfc721-a662-ddea-1188-767462d747ae@makerlisp.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 7/5/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: 2SI337J3OGJPKQMWA5FIQNV3RLFZA7A2 X-Message-ID-Hash: 2SI337J3OGJPKQMWA5FIQNV3RLFZA7A2 X-MailFrom: arnold@skeeve.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: The era of general purpose computing (Re: AIX moved into maintainance mode List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Real computers with keyboards etc won't go away; think about all those servers running the backends of the apps and the databases for the cool stuff on the phones. Someone is still going to have to write those bits. Arnold Luther Johnson wrote: > Well, that's a comforting thought, I hope it goes that way. > > On 01/19/2023 06:10 PM, John Cowan wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:23 PM Luther Johnson > > wrote: > > > > Computers that are not smart phone-like are definitely on the > > endangered > > species list. You know, the kind on a desk, with a keyboard ... > > > > > > I don't have statistics for this, but I doubt it. Consider amateur > > radio, which has been around for a century now. Amateur stations are > > an ever-shrinking *fraction* of all transmitters, to say nothing of > > receivers, but in absolute terms there are now more than 2 million > > hams in the world, which is almost certainly more than ever. >