From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3544 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2023 16:04:39 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jan 2023 16:04:39 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC54C42490; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 02:04:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7061C4248C for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 02:04:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 0485935E603; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:04:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 08:04:20 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Paul Ruizendaal Message-ID: <20230126160420.GL9901@mcvoy.com> References: <0C5D8AF8-BAB2-48B5-854B-34E3A949DE50@planet.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0C5D8AF8-BAB2-48B5-854B-34E3A949DE50@planet.nl> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: YLO2TCVODCXQBEVE55XPZOMGQP5NULAG X-Message-ID-Hash: YLO2TCVODCXQBEVE55XPZOMGQP5NULAG X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: "tuhs@tuhs.org" X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 04:58:11PM +0100, Paul Ruizendaal wrote: > - I am not sure what graphics software ran on the SUN-1, but it must have been something Probably SunView, that's the first one I saw. It was SunView OpenLook (SunView ported to X11) CDE NeWS I used either straight X11 or OpenLook but replacing the window manager with twm and then ctwm. Did the same thing at SGI, I hated all the fancy desktops each vendor did. In the days of 4MB or 8MB or even 32MB desktops, all that "fancy" used memory that I needed for actual real work, like building the kernel. Straight X11 with a simple window manager gave me a lot of memory back. I viewed that fancy stuff as stuff for people who didn't do real work. A bit of a snob, I was :-)