From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19139 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2023 18:05:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jan 2023 18:05:07 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B511424A7; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 04:05:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from fourwinds.com (075-142-133-254.biz.spectrum.com [75.142.133.254]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 711644178E for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 04:04:56 +1000 (AEST) Received: from darkstar.fourwinds.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTP id 30QI4s69132513 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:04:54 -0800 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 darkstar.fourwinds.com 30QI4s69132513 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fourwinds.com; s=default; t=1674756294; bh=JicU6U3xXpluqAgNUvJzZARyris+kkNkqzLL5gYZEH4=; h=From:To:Subject:In-reply-to:References:Date:From; b=XhzagUFkN7HxPnWb3tBfPvbqBtyp8Qk3F19gCxWjJiFq2FVxcXOJICpMgEYp0/r+1 5lQhC3h+3crPeYFanQ4OmCl1521HMQAAirN6uP8bjqb4I52lICjdU0mCXVwLWWYBD6 cqzJb2vn7EOrbuqSbDdata/2kBS+0y34txZ0jeU8= Received: from darkstar (jon@localhost) by darkstar.fourwinds.com (8.17.1/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id 30QI4sd9132510 for ; Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:04:54 -0800 Message-Id: <202301261804.30QI4sd9132510@darkstar.fourwinds.com> From: Jon Steinhart To: tuhs@tuhs.org In-reply-to: References: Comments: In-reply-to John Cowan message dated "Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:20:40 -0500." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <132508.1674756293.1@darkstar> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2023 10:04:53 -0800 X-JON-SPAM: local delivery Message-ID-Hash: O2QFBPUIOTZ4YING664RU4MBZ5IYC4ER X-Message-ID-Hash: O2QFBPUIOTZ4YING664RU4MBZ5IYC4ER X-MailFrom: jon@fourwinds.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Earliest UNIX Workstations? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: John Cowan writes: > On Wed, Jan 25, 2023 at 8:47 PM Chris Hanson > wrote: > > > > > * What do I really mean by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation had a > > PDP-11 with a single terminal and operator, is it not a workstation? Is it > > the integration of display into the system that differentiates? > > > > I think "a graphical system intended to be used by a professional to use > > in their work" is a good starting point for a definition. I should check at > > home tonight how "A History of Personal Workstations" defines it. > > > > WP says the Terak 8510/a was the first graphical workstation; it came out > in 1976-77 and ran the UCSD p-System. I had never heard of it before. The > first *personal* workstation (non-graphical) was probably the IBM 1620 (aka > the CADET system, "Can't Add, Doesn't Even Try") from 1959. I think that WP is not correct here, the Tektronix 4051 beat it to market by a year.