From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3338 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2023 14:46:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Jan 2023 14:46:35 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA6F42522; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:46:00 +1000 (AEST) Received: from relay05.pair.com (relay05.pair.com [216.92.24.67]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2175C42521 for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 00:45:54 +1000 (AEST) Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (unknown [87.112.203.70]) by relay05.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB5D1A289D for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 09:45:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (orac.inputplus.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by orac.inputplus.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E3F12135B for ; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:45:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Ralph Corderoy To: tuhs@tuhs.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: <202301270853.30R8rif6014271@freefriends.org> References: <202301270853.30R8rif6014271@freefriends.org> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 14:45:52 +0000 Message-Id: <20230127144552.7E3F12135B@orac.inputplus.co.uk> Message-ID-Hash: CA5HN3ISTVII7FQQ6SOSLFXSYJCTUCO5 X-Message-ID-Hash: CA5HN3ISTVII7FQQ6SOSLFXSYJCTUCO5 X-MailFrom: ralph@inputplus.co.uk X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: [off-topic] Anyone still using USENET? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Hi Arnold, > I've been using trn for decades Very fond memories of trn(1). In comparison, I've never seen a web interface, e.g. for RSS reading, be so geared towards the user and his likely actions whilst also allowing for powerful expression. > to read a very few USENET groups. Bringing it back to heritage, I was wondering about Usenet the other day. Deja News was excellent, Google Groups is pitiful. A good search of a comprehensive, historic Usenet archive would be useful from the TUHS side, but I expect modern analysis means it would also be interesting to those wanting cultural analysis of a subset of the public in earlier decades. Henry Spencer's UTZOO archive is available. Sites like https://www.usenetarchives.com have used it in the past, but none I know of are well maintained. In part, anything popular would attract legal requests for posts to be taken down; IIRC that's why archive.org took down their official copy of UTZOO. But the data is so small by modern standards, perhaps a self-hosted searcher is a way forward. -- Cheers, Ralph.