From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18814 invoked from network); 27 Jan 2023 16:10:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 27 Jan 2023 16:10:37 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF6F4253C; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 02:10:23 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DF6434253B for ; Sat, 28 Jan 2023 02:10:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id ADACA35E823; Fri, 27 Jan 2023 08:10:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2023 08:10:16 -0800 From: Larry McVoy To: Ron Natalie Message-ID: <20230127161016.GF5393@mcvoy.com> References: <20230125203805.4762218C083@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <7w8rhpdczd.fsf@junk.nocrew.org> <20230126105626.72CD922168@orac.inputplus.co.uk> <20230127135651.A70482135B@orac.inputplus.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: OK2RWXRJVKJ7UCZRX7TKOHI23DN53YRN X-Message-ID-Hash: OK2RWXRJVKJ7UCZRX7TKOHI23DN53YRN X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Setting up an X Development Environment for Mac OS List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Fri, Jan 27, 2023 at 02:54:19PM +0000, Ron Natalie wrote: > It included traditional 6250 9 track tapes and the > then-popular exabyte 8mm (which was atrociously short lived). Ah, 8mm Exabyte, how I despise thee. When I left Sun for SGI, Ken Okin graciously let me take my Sun 4/470, that had 768MB of ram (crazy big for the time, I had that because I fixed the VM system for big memory machines). It also had an 8mm Exabyte and a bunch of goodies on tape. Wheeling that machine from my VW van into building 9 at SGI was enough jiggling that *none* of my tapes were readable. I've never seen a more fragile system than those exabyte. By comparison, the old SCSI QIC 150s, while small, were industructible, I think you could have used the tapes as hammers and they'd still read. Same thing for 9 track.