From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 5711 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2023 06:14:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 30 Jan 2023 06:14:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C75AE425BB; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:13:46 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.ultimate.com (mail.ultimate.com [104.225.1.121]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB17B425BA for ; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 16:13:41 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ultimate.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ultimate.com (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 30U6DNMb030382 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 30 Jan 2023 01:13:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from phil@ultimate.com) Received: (from phil@localhost) by ultimate.com (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) id 30U6DMe5030381; Mon, 30 Jan 2023 01:13:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from phil) From: Phil Budne Message-Id: <202301300613.30U6DMe5030381@ultimate.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2023 01:13:22 -0500 To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: QSD2T7KH2M4LQGECBE5YWECE26HKQ5YU X-Message-ID-Hash: QSD2T7KH2M4LQGECBE5YWECE26HKQ5YU X-MailFrom: phil@ultimate.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Collecting notes for future =?utf-8?b?4oCcaGlzdG9yaWFuc+KAnQ==?= was: Earliest UNIX Workstations? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Douglas McIlroy wrote: > Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2023 16:16:56 -0500 > > > * What do I really mean by workstation? Ex.gr. If an installation had a > > PDP-11 with a single terminal and operator, is it not a workstation? Is it > > the integration of display into the system that differentiates? > > Certainly integration is critical. The display should be integral to the > terminal, not simply an available device. > > Without that stipulation Ken's original single-user PDP-7 system would > count (unless, perhaps, the system had not yet been christened "Unix"). Tho perhaps the EXACT same PDP-7 (in its original use as a prototype for the PDP-9 based Graphic-2 circuit design/simulation system) would qualify as a workstation? Here's a 1965 video of the earlier (PDP-5 based?) Graphic-1 system in use: https://techchannel.att.com/playvideo/2012/09/07/AT&T-Archives-Graphic-1 Both Graphic-1 and Graphic-2 were display "workstations" that fronted for mainframes.