From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 26435 invoked from network); 25 Feb 2023 19:34:22 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 25 Feb 2023 19:34:22 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54F1A4325C; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 05:34:18 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C1A04325A for ; Sun, 26 Feb 2023 05:34:13 +1000 (AEST) Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2023 20:34:09 +0100 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: arnold@skeeve.com Message-ID: <20230225193409.wspfB%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <202302251928.31PJSXc1004140@freefriends.org> References: <202302241245.31OCjGrb015310@freefriends.org> <202302251928.31PJSXc1004140@freefriends.org> Mail-Followup-To: arnold@skeeve.com, tuhs@tuhs.org, arno.griffioen@ieee.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.24-418-gbf8954aec4 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Message-ID-Hash: 3FHF7H2HEP7TVQ32KOEZPI3PDEY7C3IL X-Message-ID-Hash: 3FHF7H2HEP7TVQ32KOEZPI3PDEY7C3IL X-MailFrom: steffen@sdaoden.eu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Origins of the SGS (System Generation Software) and COFF (Common Object File Format) List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: arnold@skeeve.com wrote in <202302251928.31PJSXc1004140@freefriends.org>: |Arno Griffioen via TUHS wrote: |> On Fri, Feb 24, 2023 at 05:45:16AM -0700, arnold@skeeve.com wrote: |>> With tar and cpio, ar apparently fell out of use as a general |>> archiver, and today it's only used for libraries of relocatable |>> object files. |> |> 'ar' is alive and well as the archive format for .deb files though, \ |> so it |> could be argued that it's actually hugely in use as an archiver all \ |> across |> the world :) |> |> Bye, Arno. | |I wasn't aware of that. Thanks. It is also used during the build phase of some programs (groff last i looked). Ie they build their support objects, and instead of having make rules with $(OBJ) they simply link against the library. (I have not looked whether they build with -fPIC / -fPIE, to outrule your "relocatable", that is.) --End of <202302251928.31PJSXc1004140@freefriends.org> --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)