From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa)
To: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: I can't drive 55: "GOTO considered harmful" 55th anniversary
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2023 10:37:02 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230310153702.AFF3418C080@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (raw)
> From: "Ronald Natalie"
> Multilevel breaks are as bad as goto with regard to structure violation.
In a way, you are right. There isn't really much difference between:
for (mumble) {
for (foobar) {
do some stuff
break-2;
}
}
and:
for (mumble) {
for (foobar) {
do some stuff
goto all_loops_done;
}
}
all_loops_done:
The former is basically just 'syntactic sugar' for the latter.
I think the point is that goto's aren't necessarily _always_ bad, in and of
themselves; it's _how_, _where_ and _why_ one uses them. If one uses goto's
in a _structured_ way (oxymoronic as that sounds), to get around things that
are lacking in the language's flow-control, they're probably fine.
Then, of course, one gets into the usual shrubbery of 'but suppose someone
uses them in a way that's _not_ structured?' There's no fixing stupid, is my
response. Nested 'if/then/else' can be used to write comletely
incomprehensible code (I have an amusing story about that) - but that's not
an argument against nested 'if/then/else'.
As I've said before, the best sculpting tools in the world won't make a great
sculptor out of a ham-handed bozo.
Noel
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Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-10 15:37 Noel Chiappa [this message]
2023-03-10 15:46 ` Larry McVoy
2023-03-10 16:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 18:55 ` Ron Natalie
2023-03-10 19:04 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-10 19:35 ` segaloco via TUHS
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-03-10 11:51 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 14:16 ` Ronald Natalie
2023-03-10 14:39 ` John Cowan
2023-03-10 16:30 ` Phil Budne
2023-03-10 17:50 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 17:57 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-10 18:12 ` Lawrence Stewart
2023-03-10 17:28 ` Clem Cole
2023-03-10 17:54 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-10 11:37 Noel Chiappa
2023-03-10 15:54 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-12 7:39 ` Anthony Martin
2023-03-12 11:40 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-12 16:40 ` Paul Winalski
2023-03-13 3:25 ` John Cowan
2023-03-13 10:40 ` Alejandro Colomar (man-pages)
2023-03-13 12:19 ` Dan Cross
2023-03-09 23:01 [TUHS] " Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-09 23:18 ` [TUHS] " segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-09 23:21 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-09 23:31 ` Luther Johnson
2023-03-09 23:44 ` josh
2023-03-09 23:54 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-10 0:54 ` segaloco via TUHS
2023-03-10 1:08 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-10 10:08 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 11:37 ` arnold
2023-03-10 11:56 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 11:59 ` arnold
2023-03-10 12:11 ` Ralph Corderoy
2023-03-10 6:15 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-10 16:55 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 17:02 ` Bakul Shah
2023-03-12 20:47 ` Dave Horsfall
2023-03-12 21:50 ` Warner Losh
2023-03-12 22:27 ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-03-10 1:31 ` Rich Morin
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