From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 30224 invoked from network); 15 Mar 2023 21:22:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 15 Mar 2023 21:22:12 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEDF541267; Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:22:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5ACCF4125C for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2023 07:22:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 17FD535E16D; Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:22:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2023 14:22:01 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Seth Morabito Message-ID: <20230315212201.GY27975@mcvoy.com> References: <20230315115947.A0CC418C07E@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> <984bc9a1-70ea-4032-be21-b99f8d40e897@app.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <984bc9a1-70ea-4032-be21-b99f8d40e897@app.fastmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: 4IGJQB2NZTPZSJ2IEPQWAPWOTUQRL2Z2 X-Message-ID-Hash: 4IGJQB2NZTPZSJ2IEPQWAPWOTUQRL2Z2 X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: UNIX System V Release 2.2 gdts Vax-780 List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 02:18:30PM -0700, Seth Morabito wrote: > On Wed, Mar 15, 2023, at 2:08 PM, Clem Cole wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 5:03???PM Warren Toomey via TUHS wrote: > >> I'm still worried about my legal butt :-( > > Probably a good idea. > >> > >> But I'd be interested in the viewpoints of people here on the list. > > The Ancient UNIX license does not release anything beyond V7 - as the document you have on the site (https://www.tuhs.org/ancient.html) says: > > > >> 1.9 SUCCESSOR OPERATING SYSTEM means a SCO software offering that is (i) specifically designed for a 16-Bit computer, or (ii) the 32V version, and (iii) specifically excludes UNIX System V and successor operating systems. > > SVR4 is by definition System V. > > Do we know with any certainty who currently owns the System V intellectual property? I think (probably) it's now the Canadian company OpenText, who just bought Micro Focus in January, who absorbed the Attachmate Group in 2014, who bought Novell in 2011, who gobbled up USL in 1992... what a tangled web. I don't even know where one would begin trying to track down someone to give permission to archive System V source code. Is there any market for System V at this point? I would think it's Windows, MacOS, Linux and anything else is an also ran at this point. Can anyone point to a machine that was sold in the last few years that ran some System V based OS?