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[68.12.97.90]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q15-20020a4ae64f000000b0055b05526722sm2874301oot.20.2023.06.15.22.07.06 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Jun 2023 22:07:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 00:07:05 -0500 From: "G. Branden Robinson" To: Damian McGuckin Message-ID: <20230616050705.3ualzkwc44a7sm4u@illithid> References: <20230616032055.ixdg6ubvfxgjhsmb@illithid> <37ea7f2b-e8f7-3cfe-a27d-ece47c5dc0f7@esi.com.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zeedzqua7hzwsntq" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <37ea7f2b-e8f7-3cfe-a27d-ece47c5dc0f7@esi.com.au> Message-ID-Hash: M5INGRA6R2OW4WTB3W2QJHU3ZW55BLTM X-Message-ID-Hash: M5INGRA6R2OW4WTB3W2QJHU3ZW55BLTM X-MailFrom: g.branden.robinson@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: groff@gnu.org, TUHS main list X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: GNU eqn clarifications and reforms List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --zeedzqua7hzwsntq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable At 2023-06-16T14:22:22+1000, Damian McGuckin wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023, G. Branden Robinson wrote: > > But I may suffer from an excessive familiarity with this material. >=20 > Yes. Me too. Maybe that is a sad comment on the both of us. That is the price of trying to leave things better than one found them. > Why do Greeks have an alternate way of writing sigma! We English-speakers used to have an alternative way of writing it, if you regard the Latin alphabet's "S" as cognate (so to speak) with the Greek sigma (and I think doing so is defensible). It's even in Unicode with a low code point, U+017F. For in=C5=BFtance, the United States u=C5=BFed to employ a non-final lowerc= a=C5=BFe S in the founding documents of its pre=C5=BFent government, where you can see exhibits of the "Congre=C5=BFs of the United States". It can take the modern reader a "long S" time to not read that "s" as an "f". And if you think that's difficult enough, check out, IIRC, the Arabic and Devanagari scripts where you can have different initial, medial, and final forms for letters. Follow-ups =C5=BFhould probably be confined to groff@; I'll =C5=BFtop now = le=C5=BFt we get =C5=BFent to the COFF li=C5=BFt for gro=C5=BFs tran=C5=BFgre=C5=BF=C5= =BFions of topicality. (Although if anyone wants to tell me whether non-final s was applied to the trailing ends of non-final morphemes _within_ words, I'm all ears.) 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