From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 2212 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2023 21:02:39 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 3 Aug 2023 21:02:39 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B42E41635; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 07:02:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3975415CF for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 07:02:25 +1000 (AEST) Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2023 23:02:21 +0200 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Phil Budne Message-ID: <20230803210221.uMBpw%steffen@sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <202308031657.373GvVvW008640@ultimate.com> References: <8246.1690761540@cesium.clock.org> <29602.1690887524@cesium.clock.org> <20230803005106.GA12652@mcvoy.com> <202308031657.373GvVvW008640@ultimate.com> Mail-Followup-To: Phil Budne , tuhs@tuhs.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.24-500-g0c77db1fd0 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Message-ID-Hash: X5RRHKVDQYSZB34K2V4JBPTZYPVU4GOA X-Message-ID-Hash: X5RRHKVDQYSZB34K2V4JBPTZYPVU4GOA X-MailFrom: steffen@sdaoden.eu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: [TULSA] Re: python List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Phil Budne wrote in <202308031657.373GvVvW008640@ultimate.com>: |I come not to praise Python... | |I picked up Python (v1) in the early 'aughts as a more readable |alternative to Perl and Ruby (non-alphanumerical variable names are a |non-starter for me). That thrilled me! empty? instead of is_empty(), d! instead of log_this_string_if_debug_is_enabled() (which could be LogThisStringIfDebugIsEnabled() even, or another damage)! It (i did not know anything about Plan9 and people who use greek letters and other math symbols as variable or function names) inspired me sustainably: au Filetype c,cpp :iab $! /*! \_*/ au Filetype c :iab $!W su_log_write(su_LOG_WARN, "");=__gobble() au Filetype cpp :iab $!W log::write(log::warn, "");=__gobble() (Not a vim master.) Their yaml help files were a pain (for me; especially since the structure was there, yet the content was missing). .. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)