From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 9903 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2023 00:39:51 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Aug 2023 00:39:51 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0474222B; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 10:39:48 +1000 (AEST) Received: from lax.lemis.com (www.lemis.com [45.32.70.18]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C2D4222A for ; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 10:39:44 +1000 (AEST) Received: from eureka.lemis.com (121-200-11-253.79c80b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [121.200.11.253]) by lax.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6DE280CB; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 00:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eureka.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A64D42635CC; Fri, 4 Aug 2023 10:39:43 +1000 (AEST) Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2023 10:39:43 +1000 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Adam Thornton Message-ID: <20230804003943.GD64035@eureka.lemis.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Organization: LEMIS, 29 Stones Road, Dereel, VIC, Australia Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) Message-ID-Hash: BCHMMDLOO7B3YPLKZVSI47RJCR4IFIM7 X-Message-ID-Hash: BCHMMDLOO7B3YPLKZVSI47RJCR4IFIM7 X-MailFrom: grog@lemis.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: The Eunuchs Hysterical Society X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: emacs List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thursday, 3 August 2023 at 17:19:10 -0700, Adam Thornton wrote: > > The first Emacs I used was GNU emacs at already version...16 or something? > In 1989, Coincidentally that's when I first used GNU Emacs on a Unix-like system (SCO Xenix, also coincidentally in Austin). The version was 18.51. But as Warner says, there were plenty of Emacs-lookalikes on other platforms, notably MINCE (MINCE Is Not Complete Emacs) on the Z-80, which I used from 1980, and others, including the micro Emacs that Warner used. The Emacs lineage (TECO =E2=86=92 GNU Emacs) isn't as straight as it might appear. There was also a Gosling Emacs in the interim time, and I gather that rms used some of the concepts (screen refresh?) for GNU Emacs. Also I recall that the version numbering was a little defective, something like skipping a number of major version numbers because it seemed that enough time had passed. But I'm hazy on the details, and maybe somebody else can fill in. Greg -- Sent from my desktop computer. Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. If your Microsoft mail program reports problems, please read http://lemis.com/broken-MUA.php --q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAmTMSM8ACgkQIubykFB6QiNb0wCfYDsj+B8udXjkPsMAlJU78JBa xUgAnRUkt9hqOJMzJXvQcldsfuJP3HIC =vvEZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --q9KOos5vDmpwPx9o--