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From: Steffen Nurpmeso <>
To: (Norman Wilson) <>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Unix install & "standalone" package
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2023 00:10:59 +0200	[thread overview]
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Norman Wilson wrote in
 |I don't remember any special many-programs-in-one binary
 |like busybox in any Unix from the days when Unix was simple
 |enough for me to understand.  That covers the entire lifetime
 |of the Research systems, but also System V and the BSDs and
 |their sundry offspring up into at least the 1990s.
 |Perhaps the question to ask is why such a magic program is
 |needed at all.  Is it just because programs like the shell
 |have become so large and unwieldy that they won't fit in
 |a small environment suitable for loading into an initramfs?

AlpineLinux as used on my vserver has busybox by default and can
cover most utitilities like that.  The lead developer Copa once
said something like "The idea is you install explicitly [if you
want something better]".  (It is a symlink farm that is
selectively replaced by installing "real" packages iirc.)

For my laptop it allows me easy boot management.
To save you the chatter ("Chatten" is the name of my tribe .. most
likely; could be Franken, Sueben .. and you know how it is): this
approach is much easier and smaller than having lots of static
binaries to copy around etc.

I do not use secure boot, i have on EFI only a kernel, busybox and
cryptsetup, and scripts (the laptop is named "kent")::

  drwxr-xr-x  4 root root     4096 Jul 15  2021  EFI/
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root      272 Feb  1  2022*
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root      313 Feb  1  2022*
  drwxr-xr-x  1 root root      252 Oct  9  2022  ../
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root     4596 Feb  4  2023*
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root     3646 Feb  4  2023*
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  5480120 Feb 11  2023  cryptsetup.static*
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root  1978368 Aug 15 18:51  busybox.static*
  -rwxr-xr-x  1 root root 10112672 Aug 26 18:44  ideapad-stage1.efi*

So can be init(8) for the ideapad-stage1.efi Linux kernel
started via EFI as setup via efibootmgr(8) 

  Boot0001* kent HD(1,GPT,5d6d756b-5de2-4e5d-b043-8d4ae1bb6eb0,0x800,0x82000)/File(\ideapad-stage1.efi)root=/dev/nvme0n1p1 rootfstype=vfat init=/

  #!/busybox.static sh
  #@ kent, step 1., via EFI.
  ROOT_DECRYPT='-t btrfs -o defaults,subvol=/crux/kent/root'
          ROOT_DECRYPT1='-t btrfs -o defaults,subvol=/crux/kent/root.old'
  . /

and that allows me to unlock the harddisk.

We then boot via $INIT_S2 and kexec(8) a kernel from the encrypted
harddisk, so no code from EFI partition keeps on running.  (We
byte-compare the data from EFI with equal /boot/ files after
booting the real system.)

This allows nice and easy properties: only three files to track
(cryptsetup, busybox, kernel), almost same set of files in /boot/
and /media/efi aka EFI.  And ideapad-stage1.efi is the same kernel
that later runs, but later we have also additional dynamic modules
available.  Ie, every few weeks i copy /boot/ideapad-6_1.efi over
to be the new -stage1.efi.

|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-04 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-04 14:44 [TUHS] " Norman Wilson
2023-09-04 14:55 ` [TUHS] " Vincenzo Nicosia
2023-09-04 17:20   ` Warner Losh
2023-09-04 19:05     ` Clem Cole
2023-09-05 17:03       ` Paul Winalski
2023-09-05 18:02         ` Clem Cole
2023-09-04 19:59     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-04 23:51       ` Warner Losh
2023-09-04 17:18 ` Warner Losh
2023-09-04 22:10 ` Steffen Nurpmeso [this message]
2023-09-05 15:53   ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-09-06 17:50     ` Warner Losh
2023-09-07  0:11       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-09-07 16:05         ` Warner Losh
2023-09-08 14:58           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-08 13:56     ` Michael Kjörling
2023-09-08 23:38       ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-09-09 22:43         ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-09-11  4:10         ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-09-11 22:05           ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2023-09-05  1:07 ` Jonathan Gray
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-09-04  9:57 [TUHS] " Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2023-09-04 14:53 ` [TUHS] " emanuel stiebler
2023-09-04 17:07 ` Warner Losh
2023-09-04 18:21   ` Dan Cross
2023-09-05 11:15   ` Paul Ruizendaal via TUHS
2023-09-05 14:15     ` Clem Cole
2023-09-05 17:03     ` Warner Losh

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