From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 957 invoked from network); 6 Jan 2024 23:17:46 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (50.116.15.146) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Jan 2024 23:17:46 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E4143F3D; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 09:17:40 +1000 (AEST) Received: from cuzuco.com (v.cuzuco.com [166.84.7.17]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D06D43F3C for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 09:17:33 +1000 (AEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cuzuco.com (8.14.9/8.13.3) with SMTP id 406NFxKA000795; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:16:12 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:15:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <202401062316.406NFxKA000795@cuzuco.com> From: Brian Walden To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID-Hash: XFIME64VI62YRBOKISWRCHGOB7BC6JYA X-Message-ID-Hash: XFIME64VI62YRBOKISWRCHGOB7BC6JYA X-MailFrom: tuhs@cuzuco.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Fred Grampp List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: This isn't directly UNIX related, and yes, the thread is 3 years old. But since it made national news last night, probably due to its proximity to Newark Airport. The enormous fire in Elizabeth, NJ, I recognized in the local news as the old Singer factory. That factory was the catalyst that linked me into finding out more on Fred Grampp, and his ancestry. Here's a non-paywalled link that also mentions it is indeed the old Singer factory: https://newjersey.news12.com/elizabeth-nj-fire-industrial-building On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 11:12 AM M Douglas McIlroy wrote: > > Serendipitous find! I hadn't realized that Fred had been the third > generation in the hardware store. > His father ("Pops") retired to Drayton Island in the St Johns River > about 60 miles south of Jacksonville. > Fred often visited him, driving the 19-hour trip in one stint. > > Doug > > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 6:47 PM Brian Walden wrote: > > > > Amazing coincidences. A week prior I was researching Topper Toys > > looking for their old factory ("largest toy factory in the world") > > As there was litte on it's location and it lead me to find out > > in 1961 it took over the old Singer Factory in Elizabeth, NJ. > > So looking up the Singer factory led me to "Elizabeth, > > New Jersey, Then and Now" by Robert J. Baptista > > > > https://ia801304.us.archive.org/11/items/ElizabethNewJerseyThenAndNowSecondEdition2015/ElizabethNewJerseyThenNowThirdEditionApril102018607Pages.pdf > > > > Which had no information on Topper, but had had this paragraph in it's Singer > > section on page 28 -- > > > > Boys earned money "rushing the growler" at lunchtime at the Singer plant. > > German workers lowered their covered beer pails, called growlers, on ropes > > to the boys waiting below. They earned a nickel by filling them with beer > > at Grampp's saloon on Trumbull St. One of these boys was Thomas Dunn who > > later became a long term Mayor. In the early 1920s Frederick Grampp went > > into the hardware business at the corner of Elizabeth Ave. and Reid St. > > > > > > When I read it I thought funny, as I know the name Fred Grampp. But beleived > > just a coincidenental same name. After reading the biography post, I went back > > to the book as it turns out that Fred Grampp is your Fred Grampps's > > grandfather. You can find more his family and the hardware store and > > Grampp himself on pages 163-164, and 212. > > > > -Brian > > >