From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31543 invoked from network); 7 Jan 2024 02:55:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (2600:3c01:e000:146::1) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Jan 2024 02:55:10 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E7043F4D; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 12:55:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail.ultimate.com (mail.ultimate.com [IPv6:2607:fc50:0:15::100]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E687843F4C for ; Sun, 7 Jan 2024 12:54:59 +1000 (AEST) Received: from ultimate.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ultimate.com (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 4072swdM006666 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:54:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from phil@ultimate.com) Received: (from phil@localhost) by ultimate.com (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 4072swca006665; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 21:54:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from phil) From: Phil Budne Message-Id: <202401070254.4072swca006665@ultimate.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jan 2024 21:54:58 -0500 To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <20240105221729.371EA37401DA@freecalypso.org> <20240106030254.B8D7537401FF@freecalypso.org> <20240106032236.llpryldqt7lbondn@illithid> <20240106040642.D949B37403C1@freecalypso.org> <20240107021710.F0B92374013D@freecalypso.org> In-Reply-To: <20240107021710.F0B92374013D@freecalypso.org> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: AQQGSPKHPHQVHPDDFQKVS3J4A2LODSHL X-Message-ID-Hash: AQQGSPKHPHQVHPDDFQKVS3J4A2LODSHL X-MailFrom: phil@ultimate.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Original print of V7 manual? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Mychaela Falconia wrote: > My hypothesis still stands: until someone convinces me otherwise, I > shall continue to believe that *every* paper that made its way into V7 > Volume 2 (including BWK's trofftut) was typeset on the original CAT-driving > troff FWIW (likely little), CAT-driving troff *was* used to drive other printers, and least for the unwashed. At Boston University in the mid 80's we had a Talaris 1200 (the same Xerox print engine (2700?) as the DEC LN01). The name QMS (and QUIC) were mixed in there was well. We had a "qtroff" command that ran the standard 4BSD troff against custom kerning files (in a.out format!) and interpreted the C/A/T output for the printer. Then we got the transcript package from Adobe which had a "ptroff" command that similarly converted C/A/T output to PostScript(*). I'm not saying interpreting C/A/T output was done at the mother ship, but it's not impossible either. The big wins with [td]itroff were more than four fonts, and graphics. (*) Transcript also came with a "psroff" script that would use ditroff, if you had it, and the original "enscript" command was in the transcript package.