From: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa)
To: bakul@iitbombay.org, tuhs@tuhs.org
Cc: jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Mills' initial implementation of FTP - best citation?
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:39:56 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240123043956.1DEEF18C085@mercury.lcs.mit.edu> (raw)
> From: Bakul Shah
> He was part of NSFNet, so could have got first FTP on NSFnet or a
> later version of FTP.
You all are talking about _two separate FTP's_ (as I pointed out
previously). If you all would stop confusing yourselves, you'd be able to sort
out the bogons.
In this particular case, the NSFnet appeared at a _much_ later stage of the
growth of the Internet (yes, it is spelled with a capital 'I'; the morons at
the AP were not aware that 'internet' was a pre-existing word with a
_different meaning_) than when Dave was working with the Fuzzball, and by that
point there were _many_ TCP FTP's (e.g. the ITS one I previously sent the URL
to the source for), so the 'first FTP on NSFnet' is a non-concept.
The best bet for accurate data is to look at the TCP meeting minutes from the
IEN series:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/ien/ien-index.html
Looking quickly, the first one that Dave appears in might be IEN-160,
"Internet Meeting Notes -- 7-8-9 October 1980". (He wasn't in the "Attendees"
lists of any of the earlier ones I looked at.) Look in the "Status Reports"
sections to see if he says anything about where he's at. The one for this one
says:
"Dave described the configuration of equipment at COMSAT which consists of a
number of small hosts, mainly LSI-11s. ... COMSAT has also used NIFTP to
transmit files between their hosts and ISIE. The NIFTP software was provided
by UCL. ... COMSAT plans to .. arrange a permanent connection to the ARPANET."
I have no idea what a "NIFTP" might be. Also, there is a reason that serious
historians prefer contemporary written records, not people's memories.
Noel
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2024-01-23 4:39 Noel Chiappa [this message]
2024-01-23 5:19 ` George Michaelson
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2024-01-22 21:29 Noel Chiappa
2024-01-23 13:36 ` Paul Ruizendaal
2024-01-22 16:15 Paul Ruizendaal
2024-01-23 2:04 ` Bakul Shah
2024-01-22 7:41 [TUHS] " Royce Williams
2024-01-22 12:53 ` [TUHS] " Marc Donner
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