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From: Ralph Corderoy <ralph@inputplus.co.uk>
To: TUHS main list <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: If forking is bad, how about buffering?
Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 11:41:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240519104127.64670208CA@orac.inputplus.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKH6PiWr1YXhHUrgy=NW5gerDGrBnxMYEPtv1x1ho+n4FmFUzw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Doug wrote:
> The underlying evil of buffered IO still lurks.  The justification is
> that it's necessary to match the characteristics of IO devices and to
> minimize system-call overhead.  The former necessity requires the
> attention of hardware designers, but the latter is in the hands of
> programmers.  What can be done to mitigate the pain of border-crossing
> into the kernel?

Has there been any system-on-chip experimentation with hardware ‘pipes’?
They have LIFOs for UARTs.  What about LIFO hardware tracking the
content of shared memory?

Registers can be written to give the base address and buffer size.
Various water marks set: every byte as it arrives versus ‘It's not worth
getting out of bed for less than 64 KiB’.  Read-only registers would
allow polling when the buffer is full or empty, or a ‘device’ could be
configured to interrupt.  Trying to read/write a byte which wasn't
‘yours’ would trap.

It would be two cores synchronising without the kernel thanks to
hardware.

-- 
Cheers, Ralph.

      parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-19 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-13 13:34 [TUHS] " Douglas McIlroy
2024-05-13 22:01 ` [TUHS] " Andrew Warkentin
2024-05-14  7:10 ` Rob Pike
2024-05-14 11:10   ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-05-15 14:42     ` Dan Cross
2024-05-15 16:42       ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-05-19  1:04         ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  1:21           ` Larry McVoy
2024-05-19  1:26             ` Serissa
2024-05-19  1:40             ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  1:50               ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  2:02               ` Larry McVoy
2024-05-19  2:28                 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19  2:53                 ` Andrew Warkentin
2024-05-19  8:30                   ` Marc Rochkind
2024-05-19  2:26             ` Andrew Warkentin
2024-05-19 16:04           ` Paul Winalski
2024-05-14 22:08   ` George Michaelson
2024-05-14 22:34 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-05-19 10:41 ` Ralph Corderoy [this message]

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