From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED, DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED,FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN,FREEMAIL_FROM, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF4225251 for ; Sat, 25 May 2024 02:04:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC0C2434A2; Sat, 25 May 2024 10:04:06 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mail-oi1-x236.google.com (mail-oi1-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::236]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F4BE4332A for ; Sat, 25 May 2024 10:03:53 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mail-oi1-x236.google.com with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3d1bb1c3b74so14388b6e.2 for ; Fri, 24 May 2024 17:03:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1716595431; x=1717200231; darn=tuhs.org; h=content-disposition:mime-version:message-id:subject:to:from:date :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=fYEk+0BZvQvspBDZnIntHUesiivCShSpc/pKRZN/4T8=; b=Jbtd8QUzrUwyMYR+u4tI7yPoeJfg948FCBhPGw47R41PqmrORtACeKC611+rcUsovA ygHiq/kdHH1NX1yvmR9CbBItXEXDazLoYZ+rBiW4Ko6tD8ss1dHWDdadMKu3vA/aiMHY MCRCyJ/3xmFjnXD3UTH8l1kvDegqpyas0PE8sad7J6SBcvLxsmvXBaamNuFms6udCAci ncFs+TK+ootABxYcPdlMyq0hrv+bW3gQVV/r7sH9oCyfZaTRpvKN5+Apb/7dI5bMxIq9 reh2S7tngdCZTl+bjdndbZk+jSk+D42bzjx8u99gHEbydpx6tQQ5FY965vI/vNHps4ZS 4dqg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1716595431; x=1717200231; h=content-disposition:mime-version:message-id:subject:to:from:date :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=fYEk+0BZvQvspBDZnIntHUesiivCShSpc/pKRZN/4T8=; b=wqtLWGK+Dqxx+7oK3CrGqqe3QhW6wQ0GSJwj84KqkyT0wFRfgbUn7LozcPwt83VCOc mvyex+E9eXRIP9n4RzTTwQEn9EeAlOE9VLFuWbmTqkUQV6WDElXxNHibIJNuBLUNoted ybha5jU2TAF9+RSLvSIMFbou5x5PRDb6hEepr1ihl46f1ddF9F9cAxgCidIH8o63eg1/ l4v+ZOWjpGJS/cNIj+m6vJGXUXwqAWpF1WkyzmD6iPC1qCAsnluCEK504DSucAEx4E3p C2eUoa7esr0FhNEItW5ZsY7CWp1jPrCcqvQRUOkn9DC0PH8St4NwbgCigaP9r3xuogK2 eg9g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YwIFRw6bMIhhkEvGFzjlJVdHN1DYxE2YlVZg8dRHsXisn0XD9k0 yRx93/8xn2zr+poNxOi6IutJC2pe0lSMWdjJOCaT78PlwwDn/6zO8tCNxA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFDiZlfwXUE4hWhHWfi6KPt97794jfn3MmyafcBNMBptlx02bGL6Pk72HsgdZqwVz55f0P8Sw== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6808:695:b0:3c9:708d:ca69 with SMTP id 5614622812f47-3d1a91901aamr3483226b6e.56.1716595431291; Fri, 24 May 2024 17:03:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from illithid (ip68-12-97-90.ok.ok.cox.net. [68.12.97.90]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 5614622812f47-3d1b37336f5sm378547b6e.47.2024.05.24.17.03.50 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 24 May 2024 17:03:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 May 2024 19:03:48 -0500 From: "G. Branden Robinson" To: tuhs@tuhs.org Message-ID: <20240525000348.hq5zvwm6x4evl44h@illithid> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v6dh56sxas73adfg" Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID-Hash: 36O5FBS6O6YGLMQRIH4SRYPW4EZRX56F X-Message-ID-Hash: 36O5FBS6O6YGLMQRIH4SRYPW4EZRX56F X-MailFrom: g.branden.robinson@gmail.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Was curses ported to Seventh Edition Unix? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: --v6dh56sxas73adfg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi folks, I'm finding it difficult to find any direct sources on the question in the subject line. Does anyone here have any source material they can point me to documenting the existence of a port of BSD curses to Unix Version 7? I know that curses made it into 2.9BSD for the PDP-11, but that's not quite the same thing. There are comments in System V Release 2's curses.h file[1][2] (very different from 4BSD's[3]) that suggest some effort to accommodate Version 7's terminal driver. So I would _presume_ that curses got ported to Version 7. But that's System V, right when it started diverging from BSD curses, and moreover, presumption is not evidence. Even personal accounts/anecdotes would be helpful. Maybe some of you _wrote_ curses applications for Version 7 machines. Regards, Branden [1] System III apparently did not have curses at all. Both it and 4BSD were released in 1980. System V Release 1 doesn't seem to, either. [2] https://github.com/ryanwoodsmall/oldsysv/blob/master/sysvr2-vax/include/curses.h [3] https://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=4BSD/usr/include/curses.h --v6dh56sxas73adfg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEh3PWHWjjDgcrENwa0Z6cfXEmbc4FAmZRKt0ACgkQ0Z6cfXEm bc7Fug//dkVYv1uEvuHBf+1GSckGTxpoSZgGNZbMVKmbYwj/AZxeIBfjJJkuHNGf efC8lFkfDyzLolXo2p+kN1RV8dTtZfsczH3x3UpDtnLIhKI+YrG25HHEWxMV0Caj JtLcHFwqHuldstUYvYAKIAQ6Frrd0OS2HbNvD3OuGZ8JB/TaymUo2KLTLm5EuGXA Eyd2bGLiSlphIJxpo4uBtOBV2ShSLkADYxMnpx8IaB+cxlOAe085pod2Wb3RIaos CbzCZ/YyksXpMGYQDDeXl3afnxmPMjFXMjxXRrwbvW5gNgPrvJ8hiI19EkLq0DPT ymfHvBq0Z5BkvI/k+qANKUHvmH6JjQKlWQx4qhDuuuZ5j/+e5TvAJSLvQh/L9u9D UOMXoCN07SdleVgiESBUYz173cme6rx7r7CsiyWqYOQBFh6uMSjjGIgdxPz0aVnV GDZSMGl8+SqGp62MzvtoTZCSCGmsk6Xe7e5DQoPgd6kl/dI14Cv4JcM0jGBJYZC7 k0TY4wT16ow9gIBny02L5cOa5ZOYSOfdl2Tx2U9ovgyVueCHz0AILSw4YjHJkM/s UD9lnB+YfStdIhVXGULFt3gTJFBHTRpURh0LM4s3HLH7DCnpXZi3J39A2XWqeZR7 LBk6ytKvTvW5BoRQeHVQ9l5+9c/J4MeGP8FjsqCIra4BT0VA0GU= =VGFN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v6dh56sxas73adfg--