From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE35D26A2C for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 14:32:10 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A36427E1; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:32:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from arjuna.pair.com (arjuna.pair.com [209.68.5.131]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C7A85427B7 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 22:31:57 +1000 (AEST) Received: from arjuna.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by arjuna.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DFF8A7C2; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 08:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (57.89.115.87.dyn.plus.net [87.115.89.57]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by arjuna.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C7DDA8A76D; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 08:31:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orac.inputplus.co.uk (orac.inputplus.co.uk [IPv6:::1]) by orac.inputplus.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C72220152; Sun, 9 Jun 2024 13:31:55 +0100 (BST) From: Ralph Corderoy To: TUHS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-reply-to: References: Date: Sun, 09 Jun 2024 13:31:55 +0100 Message-Id: <20240609123155.7C72220152@orac.inputplus.co.uk> DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=inputplus.co.uk; h=from:to:cc:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id; s=pair-202402161033; bh=IHqan3Nn4pG+y0hJYplrl4z5vEIgN0p62UClsnr0ZDQ=; b=bIdy7XiKEaQnhFVWbiaGnJmxCVx4uD5JcbY+qUUzwoA7SRV8y/dvEcWAZ/DKPjDV+koW2Nhhk9l4I2FqsPBZ+gYl8tqccgbWyfQUbq8bEBfQdOwmi+BLvNyyFq/f0RNsqy4Xw9tnKHSvaYhO5Oxp7G7VUVK/fHa8FPjAmcM7SH9KTzDaaPkayIKjuRQrFfvr8juiu6+2EMw1jIeb8d5DVAoeRMKuuwJn3mnWlrpCXkRo7sKug5UswgWLXURuBCv3xV7Be9r5RGSSXpxrP1PFfhZFiaEaGlZxJV3TRyEI0bH1ghXua6L3eNko138Wg+fcxDj3BUInZyQXS2QKi4pTsg== X-Scanned-By: mailmunge 3.11 on 209.68.5.131 Message-ID-Hash: UIYBKGNID6YGAPVBOTKSVHAXEWR6C4XQ X-Message-ID-Hash: UIYBKGNID6YGAPVBOTKSVHAXEWR6C4XQ X-MailFrom: ralph@inputplus.co.uk X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Douglas McIlroy X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: most direct Unix descendant List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Hi A. P., > All major apps have Powershell libraries. I envy some features of > Powershell, but I still won't use it unless I have to. > > One example is PowerCLI, which is very useful for vSphere automation. > Easier to use than their other language APIs, in my opinion. The grandfather of your post address Powershell earlier on. https://www.tuhs.org/mailman3/hyperkitty/list/tuhs@tuhs.org/message/QZVFRCYM2MEJ4VNZPORBUAKIS6WG6LIY/ > The concept of producing a stream of text as the output of a program > that does simple jobs well has been replaced by "power-shell" thinking > of passing binary objects rather than text between program > - a decidedly non-portable idea. > > Passing "objects" requires attaching to a dynamically linked library > (that will change or even disappear with the next release of the OS or > the object library). With Research Unix, I could pipe the output of > a Unix program running on an Intel 486 to another program running on > a Motorola 68000 or a Zilog Z80000 or an IBM AIX machine. -- Cheers, Ralph.