From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B13F23A2F for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 07:01:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A189C43BE3; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 15:01:13 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tuhs.org; s=dkim; t=1718859673; h=from:from:reply-to:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date: message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version: content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references:list-id:list-help: list-owner:list-unsubscribe:list-subscribe:list-post; bh=om7YN9QleJaF8BVqCC/GMtMJKOLbFP1uKDj989e4hL8=; b=13dBYAeG/MI5GdpgozXSWptDkzhfyIZDeMPRhgoUJAplffuPVxq3s9btlsVmErzX7SsKxK 19bozidX+mAnyHnWJ0O4wpV+/1kOzFdarFf62b9fnQcxW/zbUdQeevyNDiJoxtD0CVZ+/d RGiNi05g0vog4+Oh6jXnvWlm+H0vQWA= Received: from mx.sdf.org (mx.sdf.org [205.166.94.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6677F43BE2 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 15:01:05 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdf.org (IDENT:sj@iceland.freeshell.org [205.166.94.5]) by mx.sdf.org (8.16.1/8.14.3) with ESMTPS id 45K512G7014858 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256 bits) verified NO) for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 05:01:04 GMT Received: (from sj@localhost) by sdf.org (8.16.1/8.12.8/Submit) id 45K5118a028500 for tuhs@tuhs.org; Thu, 20 Jun 2024 01:01:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <202406200501.45K5118a028500@sdf.org> Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2024 01:01:01 -0400 To: tuhs@tuhs.org References: <87iky84c23.fsf@gmail.com> <20240617012531.GE12821@mcvoy.com> <0e6792ed-65b0-e2e1-8159-6426a7f15a8d@riddermarkfarm.ca> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.5 6/20/10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID-Hash: Q6O6KXI447F2KMMUOHB5DIIIG6ULGY2L X-Message-ID-Hash: Q6O6KXI447F2KMMUOHB5DIIIG6ULGY2L X-MailFrom: sj@sdf.org X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Version 256 of systemd boasts '42% less Unix philosophy' The Register List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: From: Scot Jenkins via TUHS Reply-To: Scot Jenkins "Greg A. Woods" wrote: > I will not ever allow cmake to run, or even exist, on the machines I > control... I'm not a fan of cmake either. How do you deal with software that only builds with cmake (or meson, scons, ... whatever the developer decided to use as the build tool)? What alternatives exist short of reimplementing the build process in a standard makefile by hand, which is obviously very time consuming, error prone, and will probably break the next time you want to update a given package? If there is some great alternative, I would like to know about it. scot