From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F4826769 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 03:30:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAF1427C7; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:30:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95006427BE for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 11:29:58 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id 1BCB235E982; Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 18:29:58 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Aron Insinga Message-ID: <20240626012958.GH23135@mcvoy.com> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: DDXMBLY2YE5WC7BQKEDCP2VV2MHDFB2Q X-Message-ID-Hash: DDXMBLY2YE5WC7BQKEDCP2VV2MHDFB2Q X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Sad but not unexpected news about the LCM-L List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: This is almost completely unrelated but somewhat in the "write your will/trust the right way". My dad made me trustee of their estate. OK, fine. He passed first, then my mom passed and there was a decent amount, not a lot but enough you'd notice it. 3 kids, divided equally. But I had made enough money that it seemed unfair to me to take my third when my brother, a PhD from Cornell, was busy convincing everyone that how they were going about saving the Everglades was wrong, and he was broke. I could just hear my dad saying "Larry, you are fine, Chris is not". So I gave him my third but it is a pain in the butt. You can only gift so much each year without a tax implication. The point being that none of the trust people had ever heard of, or thought of, the idea that one of the kids would be willing to give up their share. Since we're mostly old folks, maybe put something in your trust that says any kid can yield any portion to whoever they want and it is as if you wrote that into the trust/will. We did that with our trust and the lawyer had to be told 3 times. She kept saying that's not what happens, the kids argue about they should get more, nobody says they should get less. Turns out I'm the odd ball. On Tue, Jun 25, 2024 at 08:56:43PM -0400, Aron Insinga wrote: > I am not a lawyer, but as I've mentioned before, people building a > collection or creating a Museum should form a non-profit organization (with > a business plan to support it) to take ownership of it and keep it out of > the estate, because there is no guarantee one's heirs will give a $#!^ about > any of it other than for the gold that can be harvested from it.?? Do it > straight away because you likely won't know in advance of when your time is > up. > > And even if all you have is one or a few items (let's say, a missile > guidance computer, or someone's unpublished notes from lectures) at least > make sure you have a valid will to try very hard to require it to be sent > someplace that can accept it, or that will appoint (a) right-thinking > representative(s) to handle said item(s). > > Or at least make sure you've actually succeeded in educating your family on > the importance of said items, and places that can accept them. > > As someone from the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum once said to me, "They > [TCM=>CHM] were lucky to get that, we don't have one." > > But IMHO the LCM might be the biggest such failure of responsibility to > computing history ever. > > Best, > > - Aron (a docent at The Computer Museum when it was at DEC in Marlborough) > -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat