From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [50.116.15.146]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D9226D55 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:53:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6B343689; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:53:20 +1000 (AEST) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1E31A43684 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2024 07:53:15 +1000 (AEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sdaoden.eu; s=citron; t=1719438791; x=1720105457; h=date:author:from:to:cc:subject: message-id:in-reply-to:references:mail-followup-to:openpgp:blahblahblah: author:from:subject:date:to:cc:resent-author:resent-date:resent-from: resent-sender:resent-to:resent-cc:resent-reply-to:resent-message-id: in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:content-id: content-description:message-id:mail-followup-to:openpgp:blahblahblah; bh=2F3cEW6vAfxAXqe7BHnkC/pnJiXtrqR2NbCxLdI3Ro8=; b=NZyqVGeKkYSXUFD9PoaaZ+sXZGEa74QJUkjPaeOkhsgH85cAe6Pnv2Rx9exeFg6yTnjKzO6g dxf90KxXPhxJci1vmd+/X8zOdoWbKrckzxOh3Llj0QZuamckXHEsvQ5qxqH1MjjnCRTVfhR7Lf E5waKFiNhHZHzKA4K2XA9k4fp53VgtUUFxtY1YFWXwD1S24yfs2AUlNxCA2Cx2nwQzI4kon0NY pyWqE0S/gjD9vMguyKDgmXNCqmXO3jfWiZbplhSFacoSzK3munyFQXwGBM0/otJE413jQ9jGRd /Mls5GPmAG7e/jtFdLtqrWNUzDrLIBXOZu7ZtW3+kt8P8zWA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sdaoden.eu; s=orange; t=1719438791; x=1720105457; h=date:author:from:to:cc:subject: message-id:in-reply-to:references:mail-followup-to:openpgp:blahblahblah: author:from:subject:date:to:cc:resent-author:resent-date:resent-from: resent-sender:resent-to:resent-cc:resent-reply-to:resent-message-id: in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:content-id: content-description:message-id:mail-followup-to:openpgp:blahblahblah; bh=2F3cEW6vAfxAXqe7BHnkC/pnJiXtrqR2NbCxLdI3Ro8=; b=D1StXKkCc28x5PRyNKBv0AnzcaZnOGE9PQHXhi2w/Pbv0AS6i2QON4DDWv+qC0fuVXVVL2CY vMKY1RgE1mteDg== Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2024 23:53:09 +0200 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: Warner Losh Message-ID: <20240626215309.XWtuefzk@steffen%sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: References: Mail-Followup-To: Warner Losh , Alan Coopersmith , Marc Rochkind , tuhs@tuhs.org User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.24-621-g0d1e55f367 OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. Message-ID-Hash: VDNZWTE6APCM7MUKMC6X7GJCB3FIB7JG X-Message-ID-Hash: VDNZWTE6APCM7MUKMC6X7GJCB3FIB7JG X-MailFrom: steffen@sdaoden.eu X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Alan Coopersmith , Marc Rochkind , tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: ANSI (C) vs IEEE (POSIX) Standards Body Selection List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Warner Losh wrote in : |I'll add that POSIX, as we know it today (and really since at least 2000) |is a collaboration between The Open Group, IEEE Std 1003.1-XXXX and ISO/IEC |9945:YYYY (collectively known as the Austin Group, though why "Austin" I |cannot say). | |So these days, it's standardized by "both" IEEE and ANSI (in the form of |ISO, of which ANSI is effectively a member). The explanation is part of the standard 1 The Austin Group is named after the location of the inaugural meeting held at the IBM facility in Austin, Texas in September 1998. 2 The name POSIX was suggested by Richard Stallman. It is expected to be pronounced with the first two syllables as in positive, not poh-six, or other variations. The pronunciation has been published in an attempt to promulgate a standardized way of referring to a standard operating system interface. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)