From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (minnie.tuhs.org [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:146::1]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAA1289E4 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2024 17:36:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB02942A44; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 01:36:08 +1000 (AEST) Received: from mcvoy.com (mcvoy.com [192.169.23.250]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80CFF42A43 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2024 01:36:01 +1000 (AEST) Received: by mcvoy.com (Postfix, from userid 3546) id D517735E98A; Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2024 08:36:00 -0700 From: Larry McVoy To: Theodore Ts'o Message-ID: <20240703153600.GA26356@mcvoy.com> References: <93529CA0-7097-443C-999B-384BE6BD5683@canb.auug.org.au> <1b03f128-192f-4f46-4e76-50b68cd0e5af@bitsavers.org> <20240703152214.GA961016@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240703152214.GA961016@mit.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) Message-ID-Hash: 4YLSS6H7VXDPI5IYOY6SLYXR6Q6UZQOH X-Message-ID-Hash: 4YLSS6H7VXDPI5IYOY6SLYXR6Q6UZQOH X-MailFrom: lm@mcvoy.com X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-tuhs.tuhs.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header CC: Al Kossow , steve jenkin , tuhs@tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.6b1 Precedence: list Subject: [TUHS] Re: Anyone ever heard of teaching a case study of Initial Unix? List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Help: List-Owner: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: On Wed, Jul 03, 2024 at 11:22:14AM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > There are lots of people who will complain > about Linus Torvalds' supposed lack of social skills; but his ability > to hold the senior members of the development community together > without having the sorts of splits that we saw in FreeBSD, NetBSD, > OpenBSD, DragonflyBSD, etc., should be a hint that the story is a bit > more complicated than what is promulgated by the click-baity headlines > out there. This. I recognized this in Linus decades ago and it's why I switched to Linux. I was a BSD (aka SunOS) guy big time and I left that because of what I saw in Linus. I miss BSD a little but am quite happy with Linux. Say what you will about his rough edges, he's held it together for a long time. Kudos. -- --- Larry McVoy Retired to fishing http://www.mcvoy.com/lm/boat