From: Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>
To: Rob Pike <robpike@gmail.com>
Cc: segaloco <segaloco@protonmail.com>,
The Eunuchs Hysterical Society <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Subject: [TUHS] Re: Anyone ever heard of teaching a case study of Initial Unix?
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2024 08:07:22 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240704150722.GD26356@mcvoy.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdPgyqcZSWpgCzfu0o-qExp7XCEd1ZqeHUfJw5RNedY5f-pA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 04:53:17PM +1000, Rob Pike wrote:
> Architecture people: please just let me pretend your CPU is like a
> PDP-11. No surprises, OK? I'll handle the complaints about irrelevance
> in the modern age.
Funny you should say that. My kid is learning how to code and I told
him to learn PDP-11 (or these days, probably ARM if that isn't all
messed up) and then pretend that everything works like that. It's
a fine mental model. Trying to develop that mental model in the
chaos that is x86_64, I'm not sure that is even possible. It would
take a long time. I think you can learn a PDP-11, as a newbie, in
a month or two.
So +1 for what Rob said.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-04 15:07 UTC|newest]
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2024-07-03 4:51 [TUHS] " sjenkin
2024-07-03 5:02 ` [TUHS] " Al Kossow
2024-07-03 6:46 ` arnold
2024-07-03 14:04 ` Clem Cole
2024-07-03 15:22 ` Theodore Ts'o
2024-07-03 15:36 ` Larry McVoy
2024-07-03 14:59 ` Marc Rochkind
2024-07-03 23:35 ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-07-04 13:00 ` Marc Donner
2024-07-03 9:04 ` A. P. Garcia
2024-07-03 15:17 ` Vincenzo Nicosia
2024-07-03 15:35 ` Marc Donner
2024-07-03 17:39 ` Jon Forrest
2024-07-03 17:49 ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-07-03 18:16 ` Erik E. Fair
2024-07-03 19:58 ` Rich Salz
2024-07-03 23:15 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-07-03 23:23 ` Marc Donner
2024-07-03 23:26 ` Rik Farrow
2024-07-04 23:26 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-07-03 15:37 ` Al Kossow
2024-07-03 16:01 ` Al Kossow
2024-07-03 16:05 ` Warner Losh
2024-07-03 23:29 ` Marc Rochkind
2024-07-03 23:50 ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-07-04 8:23 ` Vincenzo Nicosia
2024-07-04 20:34 ` Nevin Liber
2024-07-04 20:44 ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-07-04 21:41 ` sjenkin
[not found] ` <7AC009E5-C985-44AD-A55E-E0BFC05CDD31@serissa.com>
2024-07-05 9:41 ` Steve Jenkin
2024-07-05 9:47 ` Steve Jenkin
2024-07-05 0:03 ` Stuff Received
2024-07-05 0:12 ` Larry McVoy
2024-07-05 2:24 ` Adam Thornton
2024-07-05 2:42 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-07-05 7:13 ` arnold
2024-07-05 7:42 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-07-05 8:20 ` arnold
2024-07-05 8:52 ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-07-05 7:36 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-07-05 10:18 ` Peter Yardley
2024-07-05 21:38 ` [TUHS] Re: mental architecture models, " John Levine
2024-07-05 21:49 ` Larry McVoy
2024-07-05 22:08 ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2024-07-05 22:24 ` Larry McVoy
2024-07-05 23:17 ` John Levine
2024-07-06 12:52 ` sjenkin
2024-07-06 14:02 ` John R Levine
2024-07-06 15:58 ` Clem Cole
2024-07-06 20:56 ` John R Levine
2024-07-06 21:32 ` Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2024-07-06 23:46 ` Peter Yardley
2024-07-07 17:43 ` James Frew
2024-07-07 1:39 ` John Levine
2024-07-07 3:26 ` [TUHS] Re: PL.8 [was " Charles H Sauer (he/him)
2024-07-07 5:33 ` [TUHS] " arnold
2024-07-05 22:10 ` Dan Cross
2024-07-07 22:00 ` [TUHS] " Dave Horsfall
2024-07-07 23:28 ` Brad Spencer
2024-07-08 6:17 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-07-08 6:27 ` Lars Brinkhoff
2024-07-08 6:51 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-07-08 9:36 ` David Arnold
2024-07-08 6:59 ` arnold
2024-07-08 13:22 ` Larry McVoy
2024-07-08 15:37 ` Al Kossow
2024-07-08 17:22 ` Tom Lyon
2024-07-08 17:04 ` Clem Cole
2024-07-08 15:28 ` Brad Spencer
2024-07-08 15:33 ` Al Kossow
2024-07-08 0:21 ` John Levine
2024-07-08 0:35 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-07-08 12:29 ` Peter Yardley
2024-07-05 16:40 ` Jon Steinhart
2024-07-06 13:20 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-07-05 0:08 ` Marc Rochkind
2024-07-04 1:53 ` John Levine
2024-07-04 2:59 ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-07-04 6:53 ` Rob Pike
2024-07-04 15:07 ` Larry McVoy [this message]
2024-07-03 14:46 [TUHS] " Norman Wilson
2024-07-03 15:45 ` [TUHS] " Clem Cole
2024-07-03 15:52 ` Clem Cole
2024-07-03 16:12 ` Chet Ramey via TUHS
2024-07-05 13:20 Douglas McIlroy
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