[TUHS] Re: Anyone ever heard of teaching a case study of Initial Unix?

[Larry McVoy <lm@mcvoy.com>]

On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 08:03:10PM -0400, Stuff Received wrote:
> On 2024-07-04 16:34, Nevin Liber wrote (in part):
> >On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 3:24???AM Vincenzo Nicosia <katolaz@freaknet.org
> ><mailto:katolaz@freaknet.org>> wrote:
> >
> >    I agree my view is cynical. Maybe that's because I cannot find anything
> >    romantic or poetic in "financing, regulatory constraints, product
> >    schedules, commitments, staffing issues, and everything else that isn't
> >    coding".
> >
> >
> >Real Artists Ship: https://folklore.org/Real_Artists_Ship.html
> ><https://folklore.org/Real_Artists_Ship.html>
> >
> >How would you have ever seen Unix had it not been for financing
> >(engineers, even passionate??ones, kind of like to eat and have a roof
> >over their heads)??? Without regulatory??constraints (while not perfect),
> >applying Unix to anything that is safety critical (lives directly on the
> >line) would be a disaster.?? I can make a similar statement for every
> >single thing in that list which isn't coding.
> 
> In full agreement.  Having worked at startups, engineers often do all of
> these other tasks and know their importance.

I'm friends with one of the ZFS guys (and I hired the other guy at Sun)
and one Bill's interview questions for a startup candidate is "If we 
need you to, will you sweep the floors".  Bill likes people who can 
do whatever is needed.