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On Tue, Sep 17, 2024 at 10:25:04PM +0200, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 16, 2024 at 08:15:34AM +1000, Rob Pike wrote:
> > For me the fascinating thing about dd is that people tended to use the JCL
> > notation for its arguments even after the Unix style was made available.
> > That is, people prefer "dd if=foo" rather than "dd -if foo" or even the
> > obviously easiest "dd <foo".
> 
> Wait, when did that happen? And more importantly, _where_?
> 
> The GNU Coreutils version (according to both --help and the man page)
> only appears to support the JCL convention and in fact complains and
> aborts when fed Unix style arguments. The NetBSD version behaves the
> same way.

Plan 9.
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