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From: Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu>
To: Henry Bent <henry.r.bent@gmail.com>
Cc: tuhs@tuhs.org
Subject: [TUHS] Re: On computerese
Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2024 00:38:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240930223800.Z9vdkp7Q@steffen%sdaoden.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEdTPBcGoBDb-r4vkbnqueb397G99XFBthqNMb3h5DaZ0o+gyg@mail.gmail.com>

Henry Bent wrote in
 <CAEdTPBcGoBDb-r4vkbnqueb397G99XFBthqNMb3h5DaZ0o+gyg@mail.gmail.com>:
 |On Mon, 30 Sept 2024 at 16:51, Steffen Nurpmeso <steffen@sdaoden.eu> wrote:
 |> Henry Bent wrote in
 |>  <CAEdTPBeK4HOjuiqJPtpneqrDj0CF3=5=jv5aOPjYPBisDkPmyg@mail.gmail.com>:
 |>|On Mon, 30 Sept 2024 at 14:08, Dan Cross <crossd@gmail.com> wrote:
 |>|> This makes me wonder when the `apropos` command was introduced; surely
 |>|> the name was also somewhat of an obscure joke ("what is apropos of
 |>|> listing a directory?" is not exactly the phrase that springs
 |>|> immediately to mind when wondering how to list a directory).
 |>|
 |>|Looks like it was introduced in 2BSD, written by Bill Joy, though the
 |>|4.4BSD manpage claims that it was introduced in 3BSD.  Neither the BSD
 |>|source nor manpage are particularly enlightening about the choice of
 |> name.
 |>
 |> "a pro position" maybe.
 |>
 |> needs a "pro user" from the start; AI would instead and
 |> additionally clean your back i would assume.
 |
 |Well, I no longer have institutional access to the full Oxford English
 |Dictionary, but Merriam Webster is happy to provide an extended paragraph
 |(!) on the etymology:

Oh!  Apropos is known in Germany as a (*that*) word, too, also
commonly heard, even in the (upper) middle class, but sounding
like "apro-poh" here.  Ef "Apropos -- have i already" etc etc.
I was "only leaving of the e of that creat", so to say.
(I am not looking at the online "Duden" because they now require
Javascript and tracking, if i recall correctly.)

 |--
 |*Apropos* wears its ancestry like a badge—or a beret. From the French
 |phrase *à propos*, meaning “to the purpose,” the word’s emphasis lands on
 |its last syllable, which ends in a silent “s”: \ap-ruh-POH. *Apropos*
 |typically functions as an adjective describing what is suitable or
 |appropriate (“an apropos comment”), or as a preposition (with or without
 |*of*) meaning “with regard to,” as in “apropos (of) the decision,
 |implementation will take some time.” The phrase “apropos of nothing”
 |suggests that something does not relate to a specified topic.
 |--
 |
 |-Henry
 --End of <CAEdTPBcGoBDb-r4vkbnqueb397G99XFBthqNMb3h5DaZ0o+gyg@mail.gmail\
 .com>

--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer,                The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter           he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter  wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)

  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-30 22:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-15 14:37 Douglas McIlroy
2024-09-15 19:21 ` Rik Farrow
2024-09-15 20:43   ` sjenkin
2024-09-15 20:48     ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-15 21:08       ` Marc Donner
2024-09-15 21:41         ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-16  0:49           ` Marc Donner
2024-09-29  0:49     ` Aron Insinga
2024-09-29  1:09       ` Warner Losh
2024-09-30 16:05       ` Paul Winalski
2024-09-30 18:07         ` Dan Cross
2024-09-30 19:15           ` Henry Bent
2024-09-30 20:00             ` Dan Halbert
2024-09-30 20:11               ` Henry Bent
2024-09-30 20:39               ` Clem Cole
2024-10-01  4:31               ` Lars Brinkhoff
2024-10-01 13:36                 ` Dan Halbert
2024-09-30 20:51             ` Steffen Nurpmeso
2024-09-30 21:25               ` Henry Bent
2024-09-30 22:38                 ` Steffen Nurpmeso [this message]
2024-09-30 22:46                 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-09-29  0:57     ` Aron Insinga
2024-09-15 19:36 ` Ron Natalie
2024-09-16  5:36   ` Wesley Parish
2024-09-16  3:10 ` arnold
2024-09-16  3:30   ` George Michaelson
2024-09-16 10:41     ` Andy Kosela
2024-09-16 10:59     ` Edouard Klein
2024-09-16 20:55       ` Dan Cross
2024-09-16 21:05         ` Chet Ramey via TUHS
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-09-17  1:27 Norman Wilson
2024-09-17  1:29 ` Rob Pike
2024-09-17  3:44   ` Adam Thornton
2024-09-17 12:08   ` Dan Cross
2024-09-17  1:17 Norman Wilson
2024-09-17  1:28 ` Henry Bent
2024-09-16 12:07 Douglas McIlroy
2024-09-16 14:36 ` Clem Cole
2024-09-15 21:48 Noel Chiappa
2024-09-15 22:01 ` Peter Weinberger (温博格) via TUHS
2024-09-15 22:15   ` Rob Pike
2024-09-15 22:29     ` Larry McVoy
2024-09-16  3:55       ` Adam Thornton
2024-09-16  4:17         ` Rob Pike
2024-09-16  5:15           ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-16  5:26             ` Tom Lyon
2024-09-16 10:30               ` Rob Pike
2024-09-16  5:06         ` Henry Bent
2024-09-16  6:11           ` Rob Pike
2024-09-16 22:50     ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2024-09-16 23:14       ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
2024-09-17  2:19         ` Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
2024-09-16 23:16       ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-16 23:24         ` Larry McVoy
2024-09-17  0:00           ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-09-17  0:17             ` Rob Pike
2024-09-17  5:54               ` arnold
2024-09-18  1:40                 ` Dave Horsfall
2024-09-18  2:04                   ` Rich Salz
2024-09-18  5:09                     ` arnold
2024-09-18  5:12                       ` arnold
2024-09-18 13:08                   ` Chet Ramey via TUHS
2024-09-30  1:01                 ` Russ Cox
2024-09-30  8:16                   ` arnold
2024-09-30 12:10                     ` Russ Cox
2024-09-30 15:00                       ` Jacob Moody
2024-09-17  6:00       ` arnold
2024-09-17  6:25         ` Henry Bent
2024-09-17 20:25     ` Alexander Schreiber
2024-09-17 20:50       ` Larry McVoy
2024-09-16  3:02   ` arnold
2024-09-15 19:25 John Dow via TUHS
2024-09-15 19:52 ` Dan Halbert
2024-09-13  0:26 Douglas McIlroy
2024-09-13  1:01 ` Luther Johnson
2024-09-13  2:20   ` segaloco via TUHS
2024-09-13  4:03     ` Eric E. Bowles via TUHS
2024-09-13 16:05       ` Åke Nordin
2024-09-13  7:13 ` G. Branden Robinson
2024-09-13 13:57 ` Will Senn
2024-09-13 16:12   ` Adam Thornton
2024-09-13 22:56     ` Will Senn

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