From: Steffen Nurpmeso via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
To: John Levine via TUHS <tuhs@tuhs.org>
Cc: douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu
Subject: [TUHS] Re: History of cal(1)?
Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2025 03:05:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250923010534.2L17rbeZ@steffen%sdaoden.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250923003454.03671DD56E9A@ary.qy>
John Levine via TUHS wrote in
<20250923003454.03671DD56E9A@ary.qy>:
|It appears that Douglas McIlroy via TUHS <douglas.mcilroy@dartmouth.edu> \
|said:
|>> [cal(1)] has all the logic to adjust for 16th century
|>> calendar changes ... (Try "cal 9 1752")
|>> My impression is that [it is] overimplemented.
|>
|>The fact that a 16th century change is illustrated by an 18th century
|>example suggests that not quite "all the logic" is there. It's good
|>for Great Britain and its colonies, but not elsewhere. So I'd say it's
|>underimplemented :)
|
|You'll be relieved to know that ncal has addressed that omission:
|
|$ ncal -p
| AL Albania 1912-11-30 IS Iceland 1700-11-16
| AT Austria 1583-10-05 IT Italy 1582-10-04
| AU Australia 1752-09-02 JP Japan 1918-12-18
| BE Belgium 1582-12-14 LT Lithuania 1918-02-01
| BG Bulgaria 1916-03-31 LU Luxembourg 1582-12-14
| CA Canada 1752-09-02 LV Latvia 1918-02-01
| CH Switzerland 1655-02-28 NL Netherlands 1582-12-14
| CN China 1911-12-18 NO Norway 1700-02-18
| CZ Czech Republic 1584-01-06 PL Poland 1582-10-04
| DE Germany 1700-02-18 PT Portugal 1582-10-04
(In an earlier thread on this topic Mr. McIlroy threw into
the discussion that for example Germany was very much more
complicated than that. And i said iirc something like "we
tried to keep it local by then" [actually notoriously so], and
unfortunately talked about Mors Teutonicus even, as "we more
usually than not reached the Holy Land" before reaching the holy
land, which *possibly* is the only one and true way to reach the
holy land .. if you can. (Pffffhh, what a talk.))
| DK Denmark 1700-02-18 RO Romania 1919-03-31
| ES Spain 1582-10-04 RU Russia 1918-01-31
| FI Finland 1753-02-17 SI Slovenia 1919-03-04
| FR France 1582-12-09 SE Sweden 1753-02-17
| GB United Kingdom 1752-09-02 TR Turkey 1926-12-18
| GR Greece 1924-03-09 *US United States 1752-09-02
| HU Hungary 1587-10-21 YU Yugoslavia 1919-03-04
|
|R's,
|John
|
|PS: my point was not that it's a lot of code, but that is's a distinctive \
|hack so one might
|look at earlier calendar programs to see whether they also did it to \
|try and trace the
|chain of influence.
--End of <20250923003454.03671DD56E9A@ary.qy>
--steffen
|
|Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear,
|der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one
|einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off
|(By Robert Gernhardt)
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2025-09-22 18:18 [TUHS] " Douglas McIlroy via TUHS
2025-09-23 0:34 ` [TUHS] " John Levine via TUHS
2025-09-23 1:05 ` Steffen Nurpmeso via TUHS [this message]
2025-09-23 1:50 ` Rob Pike via TUHS
2025-09-23 3:57 ` Bakul Shah via TUHS
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2025-09-22 16:07 Noel Chiappa via TUHS
2025-09-22 16:27 ` Cameron Míċeál Tyre via TUHS
2025-09-19 3:41 Douglas McIlroy via TUHS
2025-09-19 16:03 ` Theodore Ts'o via TUHS
2025-09-19 16:20 ` Rich Salz via TUHS
2025-09-19 16:53 ` Clem Cole via TUHS
2025-09-19 18:21 ` Theodore Ts'o via TUHS
2025-09-19 22:14 ` Warner Losh via TUHS
2025-09-25 2:22 ` John Cowan via TUHS
2025-09-25 14:07 ` Ron Natalie via TUHS
2025-09-25 14:50 ` Theodore Ts'o via TUHS
2025-09-25 15:06 ` Paul Winalski via TUHS
2025-09-25 15:09 ` Ron Natalie via TUHS
2025-09-25 17:48 ` Clem Cole via TUHS
2025-09-25 20:36 ` Dave Horsfall via TUHS
2025-09-25 21:05 ` Steffen Nurpmeso via TUHS
2025-09-25 22:14 ` Steve Nickolas via TUHS
2025-09-26 0:22 ` jason-tuhs--- via TUHS
2025-09-26 2:08 ` segaloco via TUHS
2025-09-26 3:17 ` John Levine via TUHS
2025-09-26 3:18 ` Warner Losh via TUHS
2025-09-26 3:32 ` segaloco via TUHS
2025-09-26 14:26 ` Dan Cross via TUHS
2025-09-26 17:23 ` Ron Natalie via TUHS
2025-09-18 16:53 [TUHS] " Dan Cross via TUHS
2025-09-18 17:36 ` [TUHS] " Cameron Míċeál Tyre via TUHS
2025-09-18 18:31 ` Dan Cross via TUHS
2025-09-18 19:51 ` Clem Cole via TUHS
2025-09-19 19:57 ` Dan Cross via TUHS
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