From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, MAILING_LIST_MULTI,NICE_REPLY_A,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32315 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2020 20:56:30 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Jul 2020 20:56:30 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 7387D9C8AB; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 06:56:29 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970A89C8AE; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 06:55:34 +1000 (AEST) Authentication-Results: minnie.tuhs.org; dkim=fail reason="signature verification failed" (1024-bit key; secure) header.d=tnetconsulting.net header.i=@tnetconsulting.net header.b="bNiVVGC+"; dkim-atps=neutral Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id 09AD99C8A8; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 06:55:32 +1000 (AEST) Received: from tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net [45.33.28.24]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2518994EB8 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2020 06:55:31 +1000 (AEST) Received: from Contact-TNet-Consulting-Abuse-for-assistance by tncsrv06.tnetconsulting.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-3) with ESMTPSA id 06HKtStq032052 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2020 15:55:30 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=tnetconsulting.net; s=2019; t=1595019330; bh=HPzmNv35y7KvP7NXJ2IM94TZaW6VhBc+9KzGBRFa+Pg=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent: MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Cc:Content-Disposition: Content-Language:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Date:From: In-Reply-To:Message-ID:MIME-Version:References:Reply-To: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Sender:Subject:To: User-Agent; b=bNiVVGC+TYpHIvRU0MAjaKUaQOQxr2vIkVbVJq7AQnvysmfkNkw8/dTAaYkfTkVUD RLPHMnlKPa2FTxHmRnTCP6fk3m8ZIEso/wo+kT0JBvCjWZYOI25JYml0aqhn7r8hWi OB7gjfV6zG6qtrJ+7XPUObPoGsAMu83So0XeWNbI= To: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org References: <20200717180831.5D4AB43F88@lignose.oclsc.org> <20200717195358.GA14847@minnie.tuhs.org> <20200717195718.GM18565@mcvoy.com> <77c0536b-87b8-44dd-96fd-76d8ceba30f2@localhost> Message-ID: <2135afdb-db52-05d2-9af6-24ad36367db3@tnetconsulting.net> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:55:28 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.10.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <77c0536b-87b8-44dd-96fd-76d8ceba30f2@localhost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha-256; boundary="------------ms010104060106070605060707" Subject: Re: [TUHS] Linux is on-topic X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , From: Grant Taylor via TUHS Reply-To: Grant Taylor Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms010104060106070605060707 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 7/17/20 2:08 PM, Michael Kj=C3=B6rling wrote: > I agree. For topicality, I think it's reasonable to draw the line=20 > somewhere Agree. I use the following questions as a litmus test, requiring both to be true= =2E 1) Does it fall into the broad category of Unix or Unix like operating=20 systems? 2) Is it old ~> historic? I use the "historic car" definition as a guideline for how old "old" is. = Specifically 25 years old, or older. If both of those answers are "yes", then I figure that at worst, someone = might ask "please take this topic to COFF or elsewhere. I figure that there's a little bit of wiggle room for other topics, but=20 would not be surprised if I needed to justify why it belongs on TUHS vs=20 COFF. E.g. trying to resurrect an ancient protocol used by . > similar to what's already the case with the "true" unixes, if I'm=20 > allowed to use such a designation. Eh ... can I get something to wash that down? I'm "okay" with such designations if you will back them up with a hard=20 definition of what qualifies or not. > As a rule of thumb, something along the lines of: if it's got a=20 > historical application (say, "how do I get UUCP running on this=20 > Linux installation designed to replicate a 1992 system?") then it's=20 > on topic; if it's solely about modern systems ("how do I get Wayland=20 > running with my Nvidia GeForce RTX 2060 Super?") then it's off topic. 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