From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 32049 invoked from network); 17 Feb 2021 10:15:29 -0000 Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (45.79.103.53) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 17 Feb 2021 10:15:29 -0000 Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id D2D629CA6E; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:15:26 +1000 (AEST) Received: from minnie.tuhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61589B966; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:14:21 +1000 (AEST) Received: by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix, from userid 112) id F401B9B966; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:14:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from hop.toad.com (75-101-100-43.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com [75.101.100.43]) by minnie.tuhs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0F65D9B95A for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:14:16 +1000 (AEST) Received: from hop.toad.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hop.toad.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id 11HAEEmj021804; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 02:14:14 -0800 To: Grant Taylor In-reply-to: References: <26484818-2f05-37d3-adff-6e34d383e117@gmail.com> <399f2cdc-d790-c4fe-18e3-0cb6b4c76554@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> <55d60220-c22d-c99f-f40c-68a741183213@gmail.com> Comments: In-reply-to Grant Taylor via TUHS message dated "Tue, 16 Feb 2021 21:08:15 -0700." Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 02:14:14 -0800 Message-ID: <21803.1613556854@hop.toad.com> From: John Gilmore Subject: Re: [TUHS] cut, paste, join, etc. X-BeenThere: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: The Unix Heritage Society mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: tuhs@minnie.tuhs.org Errors-To: tuhs-bounces@minnie.tuhs.org Sender: "TUHS" Grant Taylor via TUHS wrote: > I don't know where the line is to transition from stock text files and > an actual DB. I naively suspect that by the time you need an index, you > should have transitioned to a DB. Didn't AT&T Research at some point write a database, called Daytona, that worked like ordinary Unix commands? E.g. it just sat there in disk files when you weren't using it. There was no "database server". When you wanted to do some operation on it, you ran a command, which read the database and did what you wanted and wrote out results and stopped and returned to the shell prompt. How novel! Supposedly it had high performance on large collections of data, with millions or billions of records. Things like telephone billing data. I found a couple of conference papers about it, but never saw specs for it, not even man pages. How did Daytona fit into Unix history? Was it ever part of a Unix release? John